[ALAC] Fwd: Motion to amend the ALAC Rules of Procedure

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Sun Oct 7 19:25:45 UTC 2018


Holly (and others),

As I have said, Dev's proposal reflects a new 
requirement - that is a ALAC policy issue and 
needs to be fully discussed. And I presume will 
be as part of the At-Large Improvements.

Nothing in the proposed RoP changes is meant to 
reflect such a change. It is simply a matter of 
having our RoP be up to date and clearly stated.

Do you believe that extracting all of the BEFORE 
And AFTER paragraphs will be that much clearer 
than the redline to warrant the effort. If so, I 
will ask that staff do it immediately. But this 
is a very busy time 1 week from travel so let's only do it if necessary.

Alan

At 07/10/2018 02:56 AM, Holly Raiche wrote:
>I like Dev’s proposal, but agree with 
>Maureen.  Changes to the ROP should be discussed first.
>There can be some preparation - maybe have staff 
>do some slides showing what is there - along 
>side what is proposed - just to make discussions 
>easier. That way, on the Friday, a least have a preliminary discussion going???
>
>Holly
>
>>On Oct 5, 2018, at 11:44 PM, Dev Anand 
>>Teelucksingh <<mailto:devtee at gmail.com>devtee at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Something to file for the discussions then
>>
>>To me, the individual membership should be done 
>>in a equivalent manner for Organisations 
>>applying to be Accredited as a member of the at large community
>>- a common online application form in the 6un 
>>languages on the at large website
>>- the ralos provide regional advice after staff 
>>due diligence is sent to the ralos for their advice
>>- the ALAC votes whether to accept the regional advice or not
>>
>>Dev Anand
>>
>>
>>
>>On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 at 4:29 AM, Maureen Hilyard 
>><<mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>I agree that individual membership as well as 
>>ALS registration details still need to be 
>>discussed further and this was certainly going to be on my "to do" list.
>>
>>But I do not think that any real changes to the 
>>ROPs can be made at this time without full 
>>consultation with everyone, especially when 
>>some RALOs are still discussing it within their own membership lists.
>>
>>The issue of defining / redefining different 
>>types of membership (affiliated and 
>>unaffiliated individual members as well as of 
>>ALSes) should be incorporated into the 
>>implementation plan, under Item #2 which looks at individual participation.
>>
>>Maureen
>>
>>On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 11:44 AM Alan Greenberg 
>><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>>Thanks Ricardo,
>>
>>You may be right that 1.1 needs more than a few 
>>words inserted to have it make full sense. I will look at it.
>>
>>Alan
>>
>>At 03/10/2018 10:29 AM, Ricardo Holmquist wrote:
>>
>>>Good day Alan,
>>>Thanks so much for the revision.
>>>
>>>I have one comment for the Introduction, where 
>>>a phrase concerning the approval of the 
>>>Individual members seems to be missing (Being 
>>>it an RALO approval, an ALAC Approval, a 
>>>Committee Approval or what the RALO establishes in its own RoP).
>>>
>>>About the Email guide, attached is a screen 
>>>capture of the At Large email list (capture 
>>>email guide), there is a missing "a" on the 
>>>"may de-subscribe" line. It then its repeated 
>>>in the rest of the lists from there on.
>>>Also on the Email Guide, almost at the end, in 
>>>one of the corrections (capture email guide 2) 
>>>it should say ALAC-Internal, and not just ALAC.
>>>In the same guide, about all the RALO lists 
>>>(and also the At Large list), there is no 
>>>direct inclusion of the Individual members. I 
>>>understand that for EURALO (Not sure how the 
>>>other RALO works, and LACRALO is still 
>>>deciding how), it works like an ALS, where a 
>>>representative is named to vote on EURALO 
>>>instances, but I will also understand that in 
>>>any RALO if an individual is asking to be a 
>>>member, is not because he wants a "virtual" 
>>>ALS, but because he wants to interact 
>>>directly. Yes, I am aware anyone can auto 
>>>subscribe, but it is just another step in the 
>>>recognition of the individual users to include him in the list once approved.
>>>
>>>Best
>>>
>>>Ricardo Holmquist
>>>
>>>El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 18:46, Alan 
>>>Greenberg (<<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> 
>>>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>) escribió:
>>>As I am about to relinquish the honor of being 
>>>the Chair of the ALAC, I would like to leave 
>>>things in reasonable order. There are a number 
>>>of overdue changes needed to the Rules of 
>>>Procedure (RoP) and associated documents.
>>>To summarize, our overall rule set includes:
>>>Rules of Procedure: We have a backlog of 
>>>correction, clarifications and changes to 
>>>address issues that have arisen or to bring 
>>>the RoP in line with current practices.
>>>Adjunct Document 01: "Position Description for 
>>>ALAC Members, Liaisons and Appointees" I 
>>>expect to be considered by the ARIWG in relation to Issue 16 (Metrics)
>>>Adjunct Document 02: "Metrics and Remedial 
>>>Actions for ALAC Members and Appointees" was 
>>>never written but to the extent it is needed, 
>>>it should also be considered in relation to Issue 16.
>>>Adjunct Document 03: "At-Large Board Member 
>>>Selection Implementation" should not need any 
>>>immediate attention. The Selection process was 
>>>referenced in the Review (Issue 6) but our 
>>>proposal that was accepted by the Board 
>>>disagreed with the Review Team and said that 
>>>we will not address it in the Review 
>>>Implementation. We may of course re-open that 
>>>discussion at any point in the future if changes is needed.
>>>Adjunct Document 04: "At-Large Structure 
>>>Framework" will no doubt be reviewed and 
>>>likely changed as part of addressing Review 
>>>Issue 2 (ALS and Individual Membership).
>>>ALAC E-mail Guide: There are a number of 
>>>corrections and changes needed to being the 
>>>document in line with current ALAC practice (and reduce routine work).
>>>
>>>
>>>Accordingly I am proposing a set of changes to 
>>>the ALAC Rules of Procedure and the ALAC 
>>>E-mail Guide. The RoP call for at least 21 
>>>calendar days notice and and this message will 
>>>allow us to vote on the amendments at the 
>>>Wrap-Up Session in Barcelona. There will also 
>>>be time allocated for discussion in Barcelona, 
>>>but hopefully any need for change can be 
>>>brought up and resolved via e-mail prior to travel.
>>>I will do a very brief overview of the changes 
>>>on the ALAC call later today, and we can have a dedicated call if people wish.
>>>Attached is the redline revision of the RoP as 
>>>well as a Change Log explaining each of the changes.
>>>Also attached is the redline E-mail Guide. All 
>>>of the changes are either clear corrections or 
>>>changes to reflect current practice (such as 
>>>including the any ALT Advisor in the ALT or 
>>>ALAC lists, and including key working group chairs in the ALAC list).
>>>Alan
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