[ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Mon May 28 04:36:13 UTC 2018


Dear Colleagues,

Overall the response was great in my humble opinion. While i respect
the right of opinion of other SO's and AC's, we must recall that the
drivers of the process were opinionated in some cases which could
explain the view and reaction of some of the SO's and AC's. We should
therefore treat their sentiments as an opinion. The work At Large does
speaks for itself based on the quality of persons it has nominated to
the board in the recent past and its outputs in ICANN Policy
processes.

Best Regards

On 5/28/18, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org> wrote:
> John. May be a good opportunity, absed on those letters, to publish a quite
> clear description and results of what we do and what mean our contribution
> to ICANN and its users around the world. We need to make our marketing in a
> better way, to avoid empty criticism raised from just ignorance about us.
> Kisses to all
>
> Vanda Scartezini
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> Sorry for any typos.
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>
>
>
>
> From: John Laprise <jlaprise at gmail.com>
> Date: Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 17:01
> To: Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
> Cc: 'ALAC List' <ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg
> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>, Dev
> Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large
> Review
>
> It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do, how
> we work, or how we serve end users.
> On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini
> <vanda at scartezini.org<mailto:vanda at scartezini.org>> wrote:
> Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to deserve a
> response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic view to
> the board about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet users. Could
> be a good alternative don’t you think? Kisses
>
> Vanda Scartezini
> Polo Consultores Associados
> Av. Paulista 1159, cj 1004
> 01311-200- Sao Paulo, SP, Brazil
> Land Line: +55 11 3266.6253
> Mobile: + 55 11 98181.1464
> Sorry for any typos.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ALAC
> <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>
> on behalf of Carlton Samuels
> <carlton.samuels at gmail.com<mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com>>
> Date: Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27
> To: Dev Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com<mailto:devtee at gmail.com>>
> Cc: 'ALAC List'
> <ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org<mailto:ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>>, Alan
> Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large
> Review
>
> Saw that too but it's a done deal.
>
> All in all, the responses are  very restrained. I so too hate for allegedly
> sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited and yes,
> valuable time.
>
> For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that
> neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC organize
> and does its business.
>
> That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their
> governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as
> inimical to the public interest.
>
> So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in their
> bonnet.
>
> Carlton.
>
> On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh,
> <devtee at gmail.com<mailto:devtee at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph
>
> "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a
> leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board
> and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually
> does have significant decision-making rights"
>
> The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a
> potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is
> what you were intending
>
> "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as
> the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive
> Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making
> rights."
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Dev Anand
>
>
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard
> <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com<mailto:maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
>> A good summary of our discussions.  We can now look forward to the
> Board's response/s to all the letters.
>
>
>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg
>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
> wrote:
>
>>> FYI.  Alan
>
>>>> To: Cherine Chalaby
>>>> <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org<mailto:cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>>,
>>>> Khaled Koubaa <
> Khaled.koubaa at board.icann.org<mailto:Khaled.koubaa at board.icann.org>>, Leon
> Felipe Sanchez Ambia <
> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx<mailto:leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>>
>>>> From: Alan Greenberg
>>>> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
>>>> Subject: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review
>>>> Cc: Board Operations
>>>> <board-ops-team at icann.org<mailto:board-ops-team at icann.org>>, At-Large
>>>> Staff <
> staff at atlarge.icann.org<mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>
>
>>>> Dear Cherine and Khaled,
>
>>>> Please find attached a letter to the OEC and the Board in reply to the
> recent CPH and NCSG letters regarding the At-Large Review.
>
>>>> The letter was developed over the last three days with the involvement
> and support of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.
>
>>>> Warm regards, Alan
>
>
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