[ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review

Seun Ojedeji seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
Sun May 27 20:21:19 UTC 2018


Hello John,

While there may indeed be some legitimate people who don't know how atlarge
works. In this context however I do not believe it's lack of understanding.
It strikes me as people who understands how these things works but have
intentionally decided to play ignorance for their personal intentions.

Otherwise how do you explain a GNSO constituency discouraging participation
of ALAC in ICANN policy discussions. How do you explain a group who
themselves have leaderships asking another group to desolve theirs. It
defeats reasoning and purpose.

Regards
Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Sun, 27 May 2018, 21:01 John Laprise, <jlaprise at gmail.com> wrote:

> It strikes me that a lot of other SOs & ACs don't understand what we do,
> how we work, or how we serve end users.
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018, 2:54 PM Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Carlton. I am with you but even so, they haven’t write to us to
>> deserve a response. But we could slao, in another occasion send our generic
>> view to the board about all ACs and SO and their action in the internet
>> users. Could be a good alternative don’t you think? Kisses
>>
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>> *From: *ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton
>> Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>> *Date: *Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 15:27
>> *To: *Dev Teelucksingh <devtee at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *'ALAC List' <ALAC at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <
>> alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> *Subject: *Re: [ALAC] Fwd: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding
>> At-Large Review
>>
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>>
>> Saw that too but it's a done deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> All in all, the responses are  very restrained. I so too hate for
>> allegedly sensible people to insist they have a right to waste my limited
>> and yes, valuable time.
>>
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>>
>> For I still don't believe the ALAC should just accept the narrative that
>> neither the NCSG or the CPH give a tinker's damn about how the ALAC
>> organize and does its business.
>>
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>>
>> That is, unless they intended the ALAC to enumerate the sundry ways their
>> governance - and dare I say known positions! - may be characterised as
>> inimical to the public interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> So I would've been more inclined to step on 'em to give up that bee in
>> their bonnet.
>>
>>
>>
>> Carlton.
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>> On Sat, 26 May 2018, 2:22 pm Dev Anand Teelucksingh, <devtee at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Great response. However on page 6 re: the ALT, this paragraph
>>
>> "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN have a
>> leadership team (often called an Executive Committee), including the Board
>> and the NCSG. In many such cases, including the Board, this group actually
>> does have significant decision-making rights"
>>
>> The last sentence isn't clear as to "this group" is referring to, with a
>> potential interpretation that "this group" is the ALT. I presume this is
>> what you were intending
>>
>> "It is the ALAC’s understanding that many other groups in ICANN (such as
>> the Board and the NCSG) have a leadership team (often called an Executive
>> Committee). Such leadership teams do have significant decision-making
>> rights."
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Dev Anand
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 7:48 PM Maureen Hilyard <
>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > A good summary of our discussions.  We can now look forward to the
>> Board's response/s to all the letters.
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Alan Greenberg
>> > <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >> FYI.  Alan
>>
>> >>> To: Cherine Chalaby <cherine.chalaby at board.icann.org>, Khaled Koubaa
>> <
>> Khaled.koubaa at board.icann.org>, Leon Felipe Sanchez Ambia <
>> leonfelipe at sanchez.mx>
>> >>> From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> >>> Subject: ALAC Response to recent letters regarding At-Large Review
>> >>> Cc: Board Operations <board-ops-team at icann.org>, At-Large Staff <
>> staff at atlarge.icann.org>
>>
>> >>> Dear Cherine and Khaled,
>>
>> >>> Please find attached a letter to the OEC and the Board in reply to the
>> recent CPH and NCSG letters regarding the At-Large Review.
>>
>> >>> The letter was developed over the last three days with the involvement
>> and support of the ALAC and its RALO Regional Leaders.
>>
>> >>> Warm regards, Alan
>>
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