[ALAC] URGENT: Supplementary Comment on .O release

Thu Jun 28 12:17:27 UTC 2018

Happy to support Olivier's request.  Olivier, I'm sure you and
Jonathn can, between you, come up with a form of words thaat works
Holly

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlton Samuels" 
To:"Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" 
Cc:"Jonathan Zuck" , "ALAC Working List" , "Alan Greenberg" 
Sent:Thu, 28 Jun 2018 06:29:26 -0500
Subject:Re: [ALAC] URGENT: Supplementary Comment on .O release

FWIW, I find Olivier's comment perfectly reasonable and supportable;
auctions to establish who gets the string with no reserve price.
 We cannot know or guess every fo...., well business plan out there.
Let's disavow prior restraint here. The positional principle ought to
be for maximizing the take by fair and transparent means and use those
windfall proceeds to help advance the agenda to which ICANN and the
community are severally committed. 
 Let's opt to help our friends and neighbours who would wish to spend
big money on a string do so efficiently and help some others too.
Because as we say in my neck of the woods when Eskimos have too much
money they buy [a] [re]fridge[ator]. 
 -Carlton 

 On Thu, 28 Jun 2018, 12:40 am Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond,  wrote:
   Dear Alan,

 given that a follow-up statement with "corrections" was posted to the
public comment forum after I informed you of the matter below and
given the fact that my comment was not taken into account, I hereby
ask you again to have this statement amended as per below.

 Should this Statement be ratified as such, it will leave me with no
option than to write directly to the Public Comment Forum, to issue a
rebuttal that I disassociate myself from this Statement.
 Kindest regards,

 Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
 (in my personal capacity)

On 24/06/2018 00:41, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond wrote:
  Dear Alan,

 thanks for this. I do think that the updated statement is a lot more
complete than version 1.
 I note a couple of references being made of past statements by people
who then became At-Large members, both dating from 2007. Whilst I
cannot comment on Avri's Statement, I would like to emphasize that my
Statement then was in the context of gTLDs and the then dynamics in
2007. The comparison to 3G licenses is probably way out of line now,
since we now have thousands of new gTLDs thus we are looking at the
premium "worth" of a gTLD now that is likely to be lower than when the
choice of gTLD was limited to legacy gTLDs.

 I have already received some negative feedback about this quote from
people who interpreted my 2007 email as being a call for ICANN to set
a minimum price tag for these domains, much like some of the price
tags that were given to 3G spectrum auctions. With the changing times
and landscape, my opinion is that we should support an auction
process, we should support it for its proceeds to fund a non profit
but there is no need for ICANN to set a minimum (or reserve) price.

 Could this, or a summary of this explanation (or clarification)
please be included in the Statement to explain the context of my 2007
comment and soften it to align it with the current reality that there
are now thousands of gTLDs? I do not want the wrong message to be
retained by the reader of such a message - and definitely do not want
this single opinion that is now more than 10 years told, to overshadow
the clear messages we wish to convey in the ALAC's Statement.
 Kindest regards,

 Olivier

On 20/06/2018 16:07, Alan Greenberg wrote:
 In light of other comments posted, Jonathan has suggested that we
issue a supplemental comment making it clear that we beleive that the
auction proceeds must go to charities that support the public good and
the Internet Community. Moreover, the TLD must actually be used and
not acquired for speculation/resale. 

 I strongly suggest that we post this comment and ratify after the
fact. 

 Is there any strong opposition to this? 

 Alan 

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