[ALAC] Fwd: Cherine Chalaby to Alan Greenberg RE: GAC-ALAC Joint Statement of 2 Nov 2017

[Holly Raiche]

Thanks Evan

And maybe better.   A warning - it is not as easy to do as just penning a response.  It takes just that bit longer to be very concise about exactly what the position is - and then have the longer explanations attached.  And heaven knows, we are operating on volunteer time.  Worth discussing at least

Holly
On 15 Feb 2018, at 10:53 am, Evan Leibovitch <evanleibovitch at gmail.com> wrote:

> One alternative is to have ALAC advice sufficiently concise so that no executive summary is required.
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> This would have the added value of being easier to digest, not only for the direct recipients of the advice, but also the greater audience in whose interests ALAC attempts to act... 
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> Background data can be kept available as supporting documentation (in appendix form)  but need not accompany the core advice.
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> - Evan (on mobile)
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> On Feb 14, 2018 2:43 PM, "Holly Raiche" <h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
> Now Carlton
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> I think we have to presume at least SOME of those above us actually want to understand what we think - I know, maybe just a fond hope.  But when I was working at a public interest law centre, we always wrote a summary - no more than a page or page and a half - on what we were saying.  That way, there was an odds on chance the relevant Minister/Minister’s adviser would read it.  In attachments, put the bulk of what you want to say and - because it usually involved legislative change - another appendix for the Parliamentary draftsperson so they knew what you wanted.  And generally, that was the best way to be heard - and have something happen.  Exec summaries do help - as long as they can be read in under 60 seconds!
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> Holly
> On 15 Feb 2018, at 3:08 am, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> You know what is the glaring presumption here?  That most people really want to or even like to read these tomes!   
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>> First, there is abundant evidence that most persons engaged in this business simply don't read documents, whether they are long or short.  I defy successful contradiction.
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>> Breaking news.  And I hate to break this to all y'all but from long experience in corporate, the evidence of 'senior' people reading high-level summaries more than the long document is precisely NEVER!  
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>> Years ago one fella told me that my writing was too literate, I needed to write at an 8th grade level for senior corporate officers. That was waaay before Donald Trump. Never mind he remained as dense as thick mud.
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>> Pffft.
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>> -Carlton
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>> On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Vanda Scartezini <vanda at scartezini.org> wrote:
>> Executive summaries is a great idea.
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>> From: ALAC <alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 00:35
>> To: Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org>
>> Cc: 'ALAC List' <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: Cherine Chalaby to Alan Greenberg RE: GAC-ALAC Joint Statement of 2 Nov 2017
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>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:
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>> "The Board also encourages the ALAC to continue to lead by example in producing materials that ensure effective and equal participation by all stakeholders, and would encourage the ALAC to include executive summaries on statements, advisories, and other materials issued by the ALAC."
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>> How noble. Will the Board sufficiently resource the ALAC to produce such materials and additional content?
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>> What the Board wants -- anywhere in ICANN, they're able to get if it's sufficiently resourced.
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>> - Evan
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