[ALAC] EPDP Early input

[Marita Moll]

Hi. Yes, "adequate access" is a very blurry term. However, tiered access 
is one of the key topics being explored in the EPDP process -- and I 
guess there will be very intense discussions about what is considered 
"adequate" and for whom. The controversy is already in full swing.

Marita


On 8/28/2018 3:35 PM, Joanna Kulesza wrote:
> Thank you Alan, I fully see your point. As already said, if the group 
> do decide to go for a more nuanced response, I'm happy to help with 
> the drafting. Just to briefly respond to Marita's suggestion:  I would 
> assume the details of any "adequate access" are bound to stir 
> controversy. Yet if the group decide we are for full endorsement, I 
> will halt my concerns.
>
> Just my two cents. Thanks!
> J.
>
> W dniu wtorek, 28 sierpnia 2018 Alan Greenberg 
> <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>> napisał(a):
> > I can only give you my opinion. I cannot say whether our position is 
> identical to that of SSAC, but I cannot see anything in that document 
> that I do not believe is in support of our needs. I do not think that 
> we have the bacndwidth to work from scratch at the moment, and in a 
> timely manner. Voicing support for this report was a quick action that 
> I believed we could take without compromising our position.
> >
> > I would be interested in understanding what we do not agree with and 
> we could certainly add those caveats if there was agreement.
> >
> > And thank you for jumping in!  :-)
> >
> > Alan
> >
> > At 28/08/2018 05:09 AM, Joanna Kulesza wrote:
> >
> > Thank you Alan and Andrei for the updates.
> >
> > Please excuse my newcomer confusion - not meaning to stir the pot 
> here - but I'm wondering how close At-Large's/ALAC's position is to 
> that of the SSAC? Do we agree with their report 100%? My initial 
> thinking is that representing users, we might want a somewhat more 
> diversified approach than that offered by the SSAC, ensuring full GDPR 
> compliance (I'm happy to elaborate if needed). Also, would it make 
> sense to take on the positions of other communities in our statement, 
> if only for the sake of future consensus building? As already briefly 
> mentioned to Alan, I'm happy to help with the drafting if needed.
> >
> > Best to all,
> > Joanna Kulesza
> > --------------------------------
> > Joanna Kulesza, PhD
> > assistant professor of international law and Internet governance
> > Faculty of Law and Administration, University of Lodz
> > Kopcinskiego Street 8/12, 90-232 Lodz, Poland
> > publications: https://unilodz.academia.edu/JoannaKulesza/
> > website: https://pl.linkedin.com/in/kuleszajoanna
> >
> > wt., 28 sie 2018 o 08:27 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca 
> <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> > napisał(a): As I mentioned on the 
> ALAC call that has just completed, all EPDP participant groups have 
> been given the opportunity to provide "early input" into the EPDP.
> > So far, the SSAC and the NCSG has done so. Their input can be found 
> at https://community.icann.org/x/Ag9pBQ.
> > The SSAC's input consisted of their recent report SAC101. A copy is 
> attached for your convenience.
> > I would like to suggest that the ALAC submit a statement saying that 
> we support SAC101, as it is in line with our stated position of trying 
> to ensure that security professionals and law enforcement have 
> adequate access to WHOIS/RDS data.
> > I open the floor for discussion and will initiate a Consensus Call 
> later in the week.
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