[ALAC] [registration-issues-wg] Changes to .vlaanderen and .brussels TLDs

[Alan Greenberg]

I've added the ALAC list back onto the recipients.

To be clear, I did not advocate a comment. I 
asked whether this had user implications.

The only answer to date was from John Levine who 
noted that the only implication was that the drop 
of the Add Grace Period (AGP) would stop 
registrants from cancelling a domain if they made 
a mistake. Since in fact very few (if any) 
Registrars actually extend that privilege to 
registrants these days (the AGP was added when 
registrations tended to be done on the phone and 
errors were much more common), I do not consider that as a real impact.

The issue will be raised as a possible comment on 
the ALAC call on Tuesday, so it would be good if 
any any further research were done prior to that time.

If we have a problem with the timing, a public 
comment on the specifics of an RSEP is not, in my 
mind, the proper place to do it. It will just be 
made and largely ignored since those processing 
the comments have no discretion to do anything 
about it. If RSEP needs to be changed, we should 
approach it head on. The timing is one issue, and 
the lack of consideration of registrant rights is 
another that we might want to focus on. If we 
think it is of sufficient import to put time into it.

Alan

At 22/07/2017 11:42 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
>I agree with Olivier and Christopher and Alan.
>
>Yes, the issue is tiny - the principle is 
>not.  There is nothing wrong with saying that 
>our concern is not with these facts, but that 
>there is so little time for a considered 
>response.  It takes a sentence or two - but 
>that’s an important sentence or two.
>
>Holly
>On 22 Jul 2017, at 11:43 pm, Olivier MJ 
>Crépin-Leblond <<mailto:ocl at gih.com>ocl at gih.com> wrote:
>
>>I understand that the case itself is minor, but 
>>isn't the principle itself important? If the 
>>principle is as Alan has described it, the case 
>>could create a precedent thus opening the door to other cases?
>>Kindest regards,
>>
>>Olivier
>>
>>On 22/07/2017 10:19, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:
>>>
>>>Based in Belgium I naturally pay some attention to this one.
>>>However I think that John is right here.
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>CW
>>>
>>>On 22 Jul 2017, at 09:07, John R. Levine 
>>><mailto:johnl at iecc.com><johnl at iecc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it out of line to formally reply that 
>>>>>>this is not enough time to deliver a quality response?
>>>>
>>>>This is a tiny change to a pair of tiny TLDs, with about 6000 names each.
>>>>
>>>>As far as I can tell, the main thing 
>>>>registrants will see is that if they register 
>>>>the wrong name, they can't get their money 
>>>>back,  They still have auto-renew and 
>>>>redemption grace periods so inattentive 
>>>>registrants aren't going to lose their names.
>>>>
>>>>This does not strike me as a good use of our limited time.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>John Levine, 
>>>><mailto:johnl at iecc.com>johnl at iecc.com, 
>>>>Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
>>>>Please consider the environment before 
>>>>reading this e-mail. <https://jl.ly/>https://jl.ly
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>>--
>>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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