[ALAC] [lac-discuss-en] Replacement Elector For Leon Sánchez

Fri Feb 24 12:42:05 UTC 2017

Hi Carlton,

I do not agree with the alac rules, but they are what they are unless we change them

Judith

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> On Feb 24, 2017, at 12:36 AM, Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Judith:
> As I have noted elsewhere, the reasoning that produced that rule is predicated on the fiction that a candidate for the Board seat is selfless. And, without a smidgen of self-interest or ambition.   To my mind, that is a farce with an expired sell-by date. 
> 
> In my neck of the woods the Prime Minister does not lose his right to vote because he aspires to be Prime Minister and is an elector in the riding where he lives.  Quite frankly, to my mind a guy running for high office who  would not vote for himself would not get my vote, purely on condition he's likely a confirmed hypocrite...or a common fool.
> 
> If we are drawn to form rather than substance, the simple solution is to have a proxy in the class of electors.  And as NomCom-appointed elector, that appointment should be his/her unfettered right.
> 
> Carlton
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>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:07 PM, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>> Hi Carlton,
>> 
>> We went through this in NARALO and this is how it was explained to us.  The At large person for the ICANN Board is elected by the 15 members of ALAC + the vote from each of the 5 RALOS.  Since both Alan and Leon are on the ALAC, the rules as was told to me state that since the electors are not allowed to vote for themselves, they have to give their ALAC vote to another person  In our case, Alan was elected by the RALOS but in :LACRALO Leon was apparently elected by NomCom.  I see your point there, it is       different, and I see how you can think we cannot replace a nomcomm elected person, This may be true, but then we are in conflict with the At Large rules of procedure. Since we cannon change our rules of procedure we need to go thru the path designated by it and that path is that both Alan and Leon need to find some one to take their place and vote for the At large person on the board. 
>> I hope that is clear.  We can look at fixing up the rules and procedure for the next time 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Judith
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>>> On 2/10/2017 11:07 AM, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>>> I add my support for Fatima to replace Leon as elector for the Board member election.  
>>> 
>>> Notwithstanding my support here, the rule that makes the RALO the determining voice for the vote of a NomCom appointed ALAC member is hopelessly flawed. 
>>> 
>>> Maybe it was unintentional but this impugns the independence of the member. The unfettered independence of the NomCom appointed ALAC member is a major objective of that process and is meant to insulate that person from regional passions. That independence is especially valuable when that is an elector for the Board member. should not be conscripted. 
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>>> -Carlton Samuels
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