[ALAC] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Domain Name Promotion

Barrack Otieno otieno.barrack at gmail.com
Mon Apr 3 20:46:16 UTC 2017


Thank you Alberto, i understand your point.

Regards

On 4/3/17, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>  I understand Barrack, but the requested measure is general. So it is not an
> investment, it is an expense.
>  ICANN would pay to explain something whose results benefit those who make
> more money from it.
> If instead of that, do we allocate that same amount to lowering prices in
> our poor regions, where the prices of domains are the same as in very rich
> areas? That would be an investment.
>
> Also my humble opinion and respect
>
> Best
>
> Alberto
>
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com]
> Enviado el: Monday, April 3, 2017 5:19 PM
> Para: Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org>
> CC: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>; Carlton Samuels
> <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>; ALAC Working List
> <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> Asunto: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Domain Name Promotion
>
> Hi Alberto,
>
> I read a certain book on the history of the Domain Name Industry by PIR, it
> seems the issue of dealing with surpluses is as old as the industry itself.
> Looking at the amount of money spent on  the transition, it equally makes
> sense to invest good money in awareness creation and capacity building which
> in effect will expand the global domain name footprint. Currently the global
> North and Europe  accounts for more than 50 % of domain name registrations,
> surely this is not one world one internet, we can do better as
> stakeholders.
>
> My humble opinion though
>
> Regards
>
> On 4/3/17, Alberto Soto <asoto at ibero-americano.org> wrote:
>> That is, with the excuse that ICANN should promote universal awareness
>> of new gTLDs, should it spend (not invest !!) that money?
>>
>>
>>
>> I do not agree, but I do agree with Seun.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards!
>>
>>
>>
>> Alberto
>>
>>
>>
>> De: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>> [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Seun
>> Ojedeji Enviado el: Monday, April 3, 2017 4:46 PM
>> Para: Carlton Samuels <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>> CC: ALAC Working List <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>> Asunto: Re: [ALAC] Fwd: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Domain Name Promotion
>>
>>
>>
>> Indeed! One wonders how ICANN which supposed to be a neutral entity
>> would start marketing "dying" newgtld at the expense of other tlds
>> (legacy TLD and ccTLD).
>>
>>
>>
>> Hopefully ICANN will not take this seriously, but i have been
>> disappointed in the past hence this may just be one of such instances.
>>
>>
>>
>> Imagine an ISP asking ICANN or RIR to help them market for customers
>> so they can pay their membership dues for IP resource allocated to them!
>>
>>
>>
>> The world is really changing!!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 Apr 2017 20:29, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com
>> <mailto:carlton.samuels at gmail.com> > wrote:
>>
>> As the world turns........
>>
>>
>> ==============================
>> Carlton A Samuels
>> Mobile: 876-818-1799
>> Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround
>> =============================
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>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Kurt Pritz <kurt at kjpritz.com <mailto:kurt at kjpritz.com> >
>> Date: Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:16 PM
>> Subject: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Domain Name Promotion
>> To: Jeff Neuman <jeff.neuman at comlaude.com
>> <mailto:jeff.neuman at comlaude.com>
>>>, avri at apc.org <mailto:avri at apc.org>
>> Cc: "gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org> "
>> <gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg at icann.org> >
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Jeff, Avri, et al:
>>
>>
>>
>> I saw that this has been published.
>> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/diaz-to-atallah-e
>> t-al-14mar17-en.pdf
>>
>>
>>
>> The reason I am writing is in reference to the proposal that: “ICANN
>> create a fund, to be seeded with US$3M at start-up, to promote
>> universal awareness of new gTLDs to the general Internet user
>> community, and universal acceptance of new gTLDs across the Internet.”
>>
>>
>>
>> In the past, when ICANN staff members have been asked in public fora
>> to begin an effort to promote the use of domain names, the response
>> has generally been that it is not ICANN’s role to promote the use of
>> domain names and domain name registries.
>>
>>
>>
>> To me, this is not an operations question; this is a policy question.
>>
>>
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>> In the current environment, i.e., absent a policy statement, ICANN can
>> easily proceed to take up the RySG recommendation, especially for this
>> relatively small seed fund. I hope we all urge that ICANN do this.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, if ICANN hesitates to take up an awareness campaign regarding
>> the benefits of domain names (Including how they can be used and their
>> efficacy as a strategic tool), then a policy statement could direct such
>> an action.
>>
>>
>>
>> ICANN is for two things, the allocation of domain names and IP addresses.
>> Who else is to inform the largely ignorant public on the utility of
>> domain names if not ICANN?
>>
>>
>>
>> All of us argued about how best to introduce and govern domain name
>> usage - but we are all in favor of domain name uptake and the safe and
>> stable growth of the domain name industry. All of us show up at ICANN
>> meetings to talk about the best way to delegate and register names. If
>> we and ICANN are not for their usage - why be part of this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Some of us were against the new gTLD program and others were not happy
>> with the final policy or implementation. Does that mean they want to
>> see the program fail? Of course not. The new gTLD program is the
>> culmination of many years and many thousand people-hours of work.
>>
>>
>>
>> With tools and resources for promoting public understanding of domain
>> names readily available, I don’t see how ICANN (the staff or the
>> community) can sit idly by.  With the cash surplus in hand, as Patton
>> said, “we are at the right time in the right place with the right
>> instrument,” to do something to fortify the domain name system and
>> industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> During the slow process of launching new TLDs, search, apps and social
>> media became strong competition for domain name adoption. It is time
>> for us champions of domain names to use the tools at our disposal,
>> including a small portion of that excess application fee cash, to
>> create public awareness about the domain name industry that we have
>> created.
>>
>>
>>
>> My recommendation is that this PDP working group should form a team to
>> consider this issue and make a separate recommendation to the GNSO
>> Council in a timely manner. A separate team is justifiable because
>> this effects the previous as well as the next round. I also think the
>> current PDP working group can be more nimble as compared to the effort
>> necessary to start a new policy discussion.
>>
>>
>>
>> That recommendation could simply be a statement that it is  the role
>> of ICANN to promote awareness of domain names and the benefits of
>> competition and choice in the domain name industry.
>>
>>
>>
>> We can show that we can act.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt
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>> ________________
>>
>> Kurt Pritz
>>
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>>
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