[ALAC] At-Large: Part of the Private Sector? Part of Civil Society?

Alberto Soto asoto at ibero-americano.org
Tue Sep 1 01:12:13 UTC 2015

Dear Alan, I did a semantic analysis, using the dictionary of the Royal
Spanish Academy.

Public Sector: all public organizations and agencies, organizations and
companies subject to them.

Private Sector: That is not public or state property, but belongs to

Society: natural grouping of people agreed that unit are different from each
of the individuals, in order to meet, through mutual cooperation, all or any
of the purposes of life.

Civil society, private sector, citizens and society relationships and
private activities.

In the Latin world, we have two large sectors: the public sector
(government) and the (non-governmental) Private Sector. In the latter enters
the civil society and non-governmental sectors all we know.

This is quite consistent with the definition of the World Bank. Although I
agree that it should include the end user.

In Argentina, the Law on Consumer Protection says in his article 1. This law
aims to protect consumers or users. consumer is considered to the natural or
legal person who acquires or uses, free of charge or for consideration,
goods or services as an end in themselves or for their family or social

Here and all over the world, the end user has two defenders. One for when
you have problems with goods or services; and we to defend their interests
within ICANN.

But in my opinion, again, the end user must appear as such when the
components of civil society are described.






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[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] En nombre de Alan Greenberg
Enviado el: lunes, 31 de agosto de 2015 12:59 p. m.
Para: ALAC <alac at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
Asunto: [ALAC] At-Large: Part of the Private Sector? Part of Civil Society?


These two questions seem to be coming up regularly. The current draft
proposal of the CCWG-Accountability refers to ICANN being leg by the
"Private Sector (as opposed to the Public Sector - Governments), and
includes us in the Civil society part of the private sector.

Looking at definitions can be useful. There are many of both terms.

The most common definition of the Private Sector says it is everything that
is not funded or controlled by government. Many definitions even explicitly
list individuals as part of it. That certainly includes us.

Some definitions talk about three groups, the public sector, the private
sector (referring to for-profit organizations) and the "Voluntary Sector".
The latter certainly includes the formal parts of At-Large, but really
leaves individuals, who are no longer part of ANY of the sectors.

>From my perspective, that means that if we are part of the "Private Sector",
we better be explicitly listed as such.

I would appreciate hearing how these terms are defined in other languages
and cultures.

The Wikipedia defines Civil Society as "aggregate of non-governmental
organizations and institutions that manifest interests and will of
citizens." Civil society includes the family and the private sphere,
referred to as the "third sector" of society, distinct from government and

The World Bank has a more detailed definition: the term civil society to
refer to the wide array of non-governmental and not-for-profit organizations
that have a presence in public life, expressing the interests and values of
their members or others, based on ethical, cultural, political, scientific,
religious or philanthropic considerations. Civil Society Organizations
(CSOs) therefore refer to a wide of array of organizations: community
groups, non-governmental organizations (NGOs), labor unions, indigenous
groups, charitable organizations, faith-based organizations, professional
associations, and foundations". 

In both definitions, Civil Society is listed as essentially being defines as
groups of one form or another. By those definitions, At-large and our
components parts are certainly civil society, but the individuals whose
interests we defend are not part of civil society per se.



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