[ALAC] CONSENSUS CALL: Reconstitution of CROPP Review Team

Judith Hellerstein judith at jhellerstein.com
Fri Mar 6 18:35:03 UTC 2015


   HI Leon and others,
   I think we are all agreeing on the same thing but calling it different
   names.  I was just saying if some one was active in one working group
   for example,  the Technology Task Force Group, but was not on the
   Outreach and Finance and budget group they should not be excluded from
   the opportunity to be selected as CROPP RT if their RALOs select them.
   The key here is to get some one who is active on one of the many At
   Large Groups and it does not have to be only restricted to people who
   are on the Outreach or Finance and Budget.
   So Leon I think you and I agree on this matter.
   Best,
   Judith
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   On 3/6/2015 1:21 PM, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía wrote:

   Hi all,

   In my mind, selecting people before and then have them join a parent
   group would seem like filling in a blank required for the appointment
   and not the other way.
   I would agree not to create barriers but from my view the barriers are
   created by those wanting to be designated but not willing to
   collaborate in working groups. As my Mom said to me when I got an F on
   any school subject “The teacher didn’t get you that F. You got that
   yourself”.
   If someone has been active in this context, then automatically would be
   able to be designated. If that person hasn’t been active, then I
   wouldn’t find a reason for putting in said person a complex and
   demanding responsibility as the one we’re talking about.
   Those are just my thoughts.
   Best regards,
   León

   El 06/03/2015, a las 11:33, Judith Hellerstein
   <[4]judith at jhellerstein.com> escribió:

     HI Alan,
     It is not, but that could be after the fact and not before we choose
     people. Once we select them then they will become a member of those
     groups, but to restrict the selection to have to be a member of those
   2
     groups prior to selection restricts the selection.
     Judith
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     On 3/6/2015 12:29 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
       Is joining one of the "parent" groups really too onerous?
       Alan
       --
       Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
     On March 6, 2015 10:41:36 AM EST, Judith Hellerstein
     [4]<[8]judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
   HI Alan,
   I am not saying to put some one in a decision making role who is not
   active in
   any committee.  I agree, I do not think this would be effective.  I am
   just
   saying we should not have to restrict ourselves to only choosing some
   one who i
   s
   a member/participant of the Outreach and Finance and Budget. We may
   want to
   choose some one who was an active member of another At Large working
   group or
   Committee.  I think we should not restrict our choice to only those two
   committees. If some one is active on another committee RALO leaders may
   want to
   try and convince them to become the CROPP RT or join that committee if
   we think
   it would be a good fit for that person.  I am just seeking to get this
   chance.
   I
   think this is also what Ali was also asking?  I really thought that
   this was th
   e
   addition was what Cheryl had put forward which is why I did not say
   anything in
   Singapore.
   Cheers!!
   Judith
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   On 3/6/2015 10:01 AM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
       Judith, It is extremely important to get new people actively
       involved. Putting someone who is NOT actively involved an has no
       history in At-Large in a decision-making role is not, in my mind,
       the way to go. More specifically, giving someone decision making
       responsibility relate d to outreach and budget when they have shown
       no interest in either is not how I, as a hopefully responsible
       manager, would choose to go. Moreover, if you read the requirements
       carefully, the person to be selected did not have to be a formal
       MEMBER of the SC, just a Participant. Both the FBSC and the planned
       O&E SC are open. All it takes to become a participant is to send an
       e-mail to Staff saying they want to be on the SC. In any case,
       please see my next message on this subject. Alan At 06/03/2015
   08:24
       AM, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
       Dear Olivier, I agree with Ali. What I thought Cheryl was
   suggesting
       in Singapore that the RALO can select a person to be the Cropp RT
       who is not currently on the outreach or budget. We want to expand
       the pool and the best way of doing this is to find people who are
       active contributors in one other forum and get them to take on a
   new
       role. We need to find a way to energize people in the RALOs to take
       on new responsibilities and one way of doing this is to ask people
       who have contributed in some other groups to take on a mor active
       role and become a cropp rt. We ate not going to choose people who
       will not be good at this as in NARALO we already have had the
       experience of having a person who is not active on any committees
   we
       want to avoid this and at the same time get new blood and new
   people
       interested in becoming involved and asking them to take a job is
   one
       way of doing this and is why I thought Cheryl had suggested this.
   If
       we are restricted to choosing people who currently are on outreach
       or budget it really constricts us on who we can appoint and then
       makes us choose some one who is already acti ve and not get a way
   to
       get more people active in leadership roles. The CROPP RT role is an
       important role but it is not so time consuming so is a good way to
       have a past contributor at meetings and working groups, just not
       these 2 specific ones, become more active These are my thoughts
       Judith
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