[ALAC] CONSENSUS CALL: Reconstitution of CROPP Review Team

Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com
Fri Mar 6 11:05:16 UTC 2015


Dear Ali,

there are many working groups in At-Large that are open for everyone to
join. Of these, a very small subset (4 out of 20) have participation
where RALOs and the ALAC appoint members and the reason for this is that
these need to perform specific tasks that require specific knowledge
(both skills and historical) to take part, often under very tight
timeline considerations. These are not a compatible environment where
learning takes place.

The Outreach and Engagement sub-committee is an open group so that's
probably where someone can start if they wish to be involved more in
At-Large activities. https://community.icann.org/x/cqfbAQ

For more information about all working groups, please consult:
https://community.icann.org/x/loIi

Kindest regards,

Olivier

On 06/03/2015 11:51, Ali AlMeshal wrote:
>
> Thanks Olivier,
>   While it make sense in one side "as you explained" , but on the
> other side you are limiting the participation of new members as well
> as you are giving more opportunity to the existing members of the FBSC
> and Outreach (in this example). In my personal view I can see this
> approach and concept is leading to "CLOSE Loop participation", which
> it should not be the case.
>
> Ali
>
> On 6 Mar 2015 11:53, "Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond" <ocl at gih.com
> <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>
>     That makes sense.
>
>     A quick reminder why the people on the CROPP need to be either
>     from the
>     Finance & Budget Sub-committee or from the Outreach & Engagement
>     Sub-committee:
>
>     - FBSC: because the FBSC is tasked with drafting financial
>     requests from
>     the ALAC and also engaging in all matters related to ICANN's financial
>     plan, strategic plan, operational plan. Knowledge of these matters is
>     mandatory when approving/amending CROPP requests especially when it
>     comes approving requests in-line with ICANN's strategy.
>     - Outreach & Engagement: because CROPP stands for Community Regional
>     Outreach Pilot Program - it is a program for *Outreach* so it makes
>     sense that the Outreach & Engagement WG is directly involved.
>
>     It would not make any sense that someone not a member of these
>     sub-committees be a CROPP Review Team.
>
>     Kind regards,
>
>     Olivier
>
>
>     On 06/03/2015 09:07, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>     > I believe I argued that any "picks / suggestions"  from a RALO
>     should be
>     > actual effective contributors to their roles in FBSC or Outreach
>     SC and so
>     > is in total keeping with the new outline distributed by Alan,
>     and not the
>     > thought that Judith attributed to me... (Unless I was perhaps in
>     a fugue
>     > state ;-)
>     >
>     >
>     > *Cheryl Langdon-O**rr ...  *(CLO)
>     >
>     > about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
>     > [image: Cheryl Langdon-Orr on about.me <http://about.me>]
>     >   <http://about.me/cheryl.LangdonOrr>
>     >
>     >
>     > On 6 March 2015 at 17:56, Ali AlMeshal <dralialmeshal at gmail.com
>     <mailto:dralialmeshal at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> I am not aware of the reason behind this change but if this is
>     something
>     >> that has been discussed and agreed on initially in Singapore, 
>     then I would
>     >> support the thought of Cheryl as mentioned by Judith.
>     >> Ali
>     >> On 6 Mar 2015 04:37, "Judith Hellerstein"
>     <judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:judith at jhellerstein.com>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Hi Allan,
>     >>>
>     >>> I thought that Cheryl had added another verse to the rules
>     stating that
>     >>> the RALOs could appoint anyone to serve as the CROPP RT person
>     and this
>     >>> person does not have to be in the fsbc or in the outreach team
>     >>>
>     >>> Cheers,
>     >>> Judith
>     >>>
>     >>> Sent from my iPad
>     >>> Judith at jhellerstein.com <mailto:Judith at jhellerstein.com>
>     >>> Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>     >>>
>     >>>> On Mar 5, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Alan Greenberg
>     <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca <mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>>> The main difference is that there are people on the current
>     CROPP RT
>     >> who
>     >>> may not be on the current FBSC or the new Outreach &
>     Engagement SC. Or
>     >> may
>     >>> be on, but not the preferred one to be chosen. Also the
>     selection process
>     >>> is somewhat different.
>     >>>> Alan
>     >>>> --
>     >>>> Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and typos.
>     >>>>
>     >>>>> On March 5, 2015 5:25:32 PM EST, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <
>     >> ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>
>     >>> wrote:
>     >>>>> Dear Alan,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> thanks for this. Could you please explain what is the
>     difference with
>     >>>>> the current CROPP Review Team that is currently functioning
>     and is
>     >>>>> being
>     >>>>> led by Dev Anand Teelucksingh?
>     >>>>> Kindest regards,
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> Olivier
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>>> On 05/03/2015 17:48, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>     >>>>>> The CROPP Review Team is currently composed of two people
>     per Region,
>     >>>>>> one from the FBSC and one from the Outreach Subcommittee.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Based on deliberations of the ALAC in Singapore, the
>     recommendation
>     >>>>> is
>     >>>>>> that:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> - CROPP RT for the FY16 will consist of ten people, two per
>     region.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> - One person from each region, representing the FBSC, from
>     among FBSC
>     >>>>>> regional Members and Participants, will be selected by the FBSC
>     >>>>>> Members and Chair. This selection must be ratified by regional
>     >>>>>> leadership.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> - One person from each region, representing the Outreach and
>     >>>>>> Engagement SC, from among the Members or Participants of
>     the Outreach
>     >>>>>> and Engagement SC, will be selected by regional leadership.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> With this message, I am requesting a CONSENSUS CALL of the
>     ALAC to
>     >>>>>> approve the above CROPP Review Team composition. If you
>     oppose this,
>     >>>>>> please let your feelings be known no later than 12 March 2015.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> For clarity, in a CONSENSUS CALL, you may choose to
>     explicitly voice
>     >>>>>> your support, but silence will be taken as agreement.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> Alan
>     >>>>>>
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>     Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
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