[ALAC] At-Large mailing list activity reports
Alan Greenberg
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Mon Jan 26 04:23:24 UTC 2015
Jean-Jacques Subrenat has raised the issue of the At-Large mailing
list reports generated weekly by Thomas Narten. An example is follows:
Messages | Bytes | Who
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
28.57% | 4 | 37.14% | 56728 | jjs at dyalog.net
21.43% | 3 | 22.75% | 34743 | jefsey at jefsey.com
14.29% | 2 | 10.51% | 16050 | salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
7.14% | 1 | 11.72% | 17899 | mcknight.glenn at gmail.com
7.14% | 1 | 5.16% | 7874 | hilyard at oyster.net.ck
7.14% | 1 | 5.06% | 7731 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
7.14% | 1 | 5.03% | 7687 | narten at us.ibm.com
7.14% | 1 | 2.63% | 4015 | at-large-bounces at
atlarge-lists.icann.org
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
100.00% | 14 |100.00% | 152727 | Total
I understand that Thomas produces similar reports for a number of
other mailing lists including the main ietf list
(https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg91110.html).
Jean-Jacques' questions along with my answers follow:
- Was there a decision to task any particular individual/firm with
carrying out this statistical/nominative tracking? Was this decision
taken in ALAC or elsewhere (date, reference)?
AG: The tallies were requested by the ALAC Chair. The message
documenting this is part of our e-mail archive that is missing, but a
copy of the message is attached.
- Was this submitted to regular review and approval, or is there a
separate decision to grant this as a permanent authorization (date, reference)?
AG: Soon after the statistics started, they were questioned with the
perception that it violated peoples privacy. It was pointed out that
the statistics were generated based on a public archive (which is
also indexed by Google). I am not aware of any further concerns
raised in the ensuing seven years.
- If this is being used as a metrics tool, what is its qualitative
relevance? Has it been effectively used to "measure" the value of
this or that member, say in ALAC? How were the criteria determined,
and by whom (date, reference)?
AG: I believe that the original request was made because of a person
regarded as a troll who was posting large numbers of messages. The
summaries have proven useful from time to time and all e-mail
programs have the ability to filter them out for those who do not
wish to see them.
QUESTION TO THE ALAC: I see no harm in continuing to have these
statistics generated, and in fact, the Metrics WG has discussed doing
something similar for other lists as well. Are there any ALAC who
feel that we need to either curtail this practice or discuss it further?
Alan
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Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:48:26 -0800
From: Nick Ashton-Hart <Nick.Ashton-Hart at icann.org>
Subject: [At-Large] Posting Statistics for At-Large Worldwide List
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Dear All:
Thanks very much to Thomas Narten for the following statistics related to posting on this list. These are posted at the request of the Chair of ALAC:
All of January and February to script run at: Fri Feb 29 11:44:46 EST 2008
Messages | Bytes | Who
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
23.31% | 114 | 33.90% | 562772 | jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
6.34% | 31 | 5.55% | 92218 | nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
6.34% | 31 | 4.13% | 68539 | iza at anr.org
5.93% | 29 | 4.22% | 70070 | dannyyounger at yahoo.com
6.34% | 31 | 3.46% | 57516 | evan at telly.org
3.48% | 17 | 5.97% | 99148 | dthompson at gov.nu.ca
3.27% | 16 | 4.13% | 68642 | kieren.mccarthy at icann.org
2.45% | 12 | 2.93% | 48640 | jefsey at jefsey.com
3.07% | 15 | 2.31% | 38322 | franck.martin at gmail.com
2.86% | 14 | 2.51% | 41714 | wendy at seltzer.com
2.45% | 12 | 2.26% | 37458 | hongxueipr at gmail.com
2.25% | 11 | 2.42% | 40180 | cheryl at hovtek.com.au
2.25% | 11 | 2.38% | 39500 | ajp at glocom.ac.jp
1.84% | 9 | 1.71% | 28418 | jam at jacquelinemorris.com
2.66% | 13 | 0.83% | 13806 | johnl at iecc.com
1.84% | 9 | 1.58% | 26287 | roberto at icann.org
1.64% | 8 | 1.70% | 28244 | carlosaguirre62 at hotmail.com
2.25% | 11 | 0.78% | 12902 | bfausett at internet.law.pro
1.64% | 8 | 1.22% | 20209 | vb at bertola.eu
1.23% | 6 | 1.60% | 26617 | vanda at uol.com.br
1.43% | 7 | 1.20% | 19874 | roessler at does-not-exist.org
1.43% | 7 | 1.04% | 17283 | annette.muehlberg at web.de
1.02% | 5 | 1.05% | 17412 | derek at aa419.org
0.61% | 3 | 1.46% | 24164 | andrespiazzagpj at hotmail.com
0.61% | 3 | 1.43% | 23755 | veni at veni.com
1.23% | 6 | 0.58% | 9641 | alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
1.02% | 5 | 0.75% | 12435 | lists at privaterra.info
1.02% | 5 | 0.66% | 10964 | narten at us.ibm.com
1.02% | 5 | 0.60% | 9901 | icann-list at sorehands.com
0.82% | 4 | 0.71% | 11765 | sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
0.82% | 4 | 0.62% | 10238 | shahshah at irnic.ir
0.82% | 4 | 0.50% | 8254 | mom at netmom.com
0.82% | 4 | 0.43% | 7145 | veronicac at diplomacy.edu
0.61% | 3 | 0.62% | 10325 | brenbe at consumer.org
0.41% | 2 | 0.78% | 12882 | admin at isoc.sd
0.41% | 2 | 0.36% | 5954 | ross at tucows.com
0.20% | 1 | 0.28% | 4669 | danield at w3.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.26% | 4247 | parminder at itforchange.net
0.20% | 1 | 0.21% | 3551 | guru at itforchange.net
0.20% | 1 | 0.15% | 2474 | email at hakik.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.15% | 2408 | dmiloshevic at afilias.info
0.20% | 1 | 0.12% | 2066 | shearman at victoria.tc.ca
0.20% | 1 | 0.11% | 1767 | postmaster at icann.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.09% | 1499 | info at internautabrasil.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.08% | 1393 | eiriarte at alfa-redi.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.08% | 1327 | mailer-daemon at icann.org
0.20% | 1 | 0.05% | 880 | bashar at kuwaitnet.net
0.20% | 1 | 0.05% | 859 | mmaranda at afcn.org
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
100.00% | 489 |100.00% | 1660334 | Total
Here is for just the last week:
script run at: Fri Feb 29 11:51:28 EST 2008
Messages | Bytes | Who
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
40.37% | 44 | 50.31% | 170206 | jwkckid1 at ix.netcom.com
9.17% | 10 | 7.98% | 27001 | franck.martin at gmail.com
4.59% | 5 | 7.31% | 24734 | jefsey at jefsey.com
6.42% | 7 | 3.71% | 12566 | dannyyounger at yahoo.com
2.75% | 3 | 4.10% | 13880 | cheryl at hovtek.com.au
3.67% | 4 | 2.77% | 9359 | icann-list at sorehands.com
2.75% | 3 | 3.52% | 11924 | derek at aa419.org
2.75% | 3 | 3.41% | 11526 | jam at jacquelinemorris.com
4.59% | 5 | 1.43% | 4833 | evan at telly.org
3.67% | 4 | 1.58% | 5358 | roberto at icann.org
3.67% | 4 | 1.12% | 3791 | johnl at iecc.com
1.83% | 2 | 2.26% | 7646 | vanda at uol.com.br
1.83% | 2 | 1.85% | 6268 | iza at anr.org
1.83% | 2 | 1.61% | 5456 | nick.ashton-hart at icann.org
1.83% | 2 | 1.47% | 4987 | mom at netmom.com
1.83% | 2 | 1.32% | 4462 | lists at privaterra.info
1.83% | 2 | 0.70% | 2384 | narten at us.ibm.com
0.92% | 1 | 1.03% | 3491 | sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
0.92% | 1 | 0.97% | 3266 | hongxueipr at gmail.com
0.92% | 1 | 0.87% | 2931 | wendy at seltzer.com
0.92% | 1 | 0.46% | 1540 | annette.muehlberg at web.de
0.92% | 1 | 0.21% | 724 | shahshah at irnic.ir
--------+------+--------+----------+------------------------
100.00% | 109 |100.00% | 338333 | Total
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Nick Ashton-Hart
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