[ALAC] Fwd: RE: Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing ICANN Accountabitliy Plan

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Thu Sep 25 13:24:35 UTC 2014

Olivier, I completely support this.

The statement both identifies an optimal solution 
and provides an acceptable fall-back should the 
preferred solution not be accepted. The fall-back 
addresses the critical ones (in my mind) of 
establishing the ground-rules ahead of time, and 
ensuring that the external members of the 
community (and particularly the staff and 
external experts) do not control the outcome.

The uniform position presented to ICANN in 
Istanbul resulted in an unprecedented result. 
ICANN changed direction, and did so quickly, 
because of community feedback. Consider how 
different that was to the similar (but 
uncoordinated) feedback it received on digital 
archery! We should only abandon attempting to 
reply now in a uniform way if what was being 
opposed was contrary to our own views, and it is not.

So you have my complete support to proceed with 
supporting the RySG statement (or an evolution of 
it) as you see fit. I am effectively giving you 
my proxy to take whatever action on behalf of the 
ALAC and in support of At-Large in this matter.


At 25/09/2014 09:08 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
>Dear ALAC members,
>I am following up on my message below which included the Registry
>Stakeholder Group's Statement on the topic of the "enhancing ICANN
>Accountability" plan.
>The ALT discussed the matter yesterday and was reminded that according
>to our ALAC Rules of Procedure, the ALAC Chair would be able to make a
>decision and respond to a process without an ALAC vote, asking for the
>ratification vote to take place afterwards.
>Historically, on occasions, we have sometimes also sent Statements to
>public comment periods prior to official ratification by the ALAC
>provided we knew there was consensus on the Statement.
>With the Registry's Statement being considered, it was the feeling of
>the ALT that the ALAC should have no objection in supporting such a
>Statement, for the following reasons:
>1. The Statement contains no points which are contrary to an ALAC position.
>2. With the amount of time remaining (closing date Saturday 27 September
>2014) the Statement is more complete that any Statement the ALAC could
>draft in such a short amount of time.
>3. A Joint Statement from SOs, AC and SGs is likely to have much more
>impact than separate Statements from various communities. This has been
>shown already in the speed of the response to the prior joint Statement
>which the ALAC has signed on.
>4. at a time when all lights are on ICANN, showing alignment of the
>Community means we can work better and across silos - a good showcase of
>the multi-stakeholder model.
>I would therefore ask you all for a 24H consensus call now starting at
>13:00 UTC and ending on Friday 26 September 2014 at 13:00 UTC. Should I
>receive no formal objection to the ALAC supporting this Statement, I
>shall proceed forward with offering the ALAC's support for the
>Statement. Shortly after Friday, Staff will launch a standard
>ratification vote for the support of the Statement.
>If there are objections to the Statement being supported by the ALAC, I
>plan to offer my individual support to it. For your comfort, please find
>a copy of the proposed Statement attached again to this message.
>Kindest regards,
>Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>ALAC Chair
>On 24/09/2014 18:02, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
> > Dear ALAC members,
> >
> > please be so kind to find the suggested joint Statement from the
> > Registry Stakeholder Group. (attached as a docx and PDF)
> > Feedback needed as soon as possible. The ALT will be discussing this in
> > a few hours.
> > Kindest regards,
> >
> > Olivier
> >
> >
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject:      RE: Joint SO-AC-SG-C Submission on ICANN's Enhancing ICANN
> > Accountabitliy Plan
> > Date:         Wed, 24 Sep 2014 08:48:10 +0000
> > From:         Drazek, Keith <kdrazek at verisign.com>
> > To:   SO/AC/SG/C Chairs
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Following up my earlier email, I’ve attached the latest draft of the
> > RySG comments on the Enhancing ICANN Accountability process.
> >
> >
> >
> > Feel free to share these with your respective groups if you find them
> > helpful.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please respond to this message with any updates from your respective
> > groups. Are you planning to submit comments? Are you open to developing
> > a joint SO-AC-SG-C leaders’ statement?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Keith
> >
> >
> >
> >
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