[ALAC] ALS certification and decertification votes

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Sat Oct 4 08:37:17 UTC 2014


  Current institutional arrangements and the

>  configuration is that at least ten (10) ALAC members are supposed to be
> reflecting their sense of ALS positions to ALAC and thence, to the Board
> and community.
>
> If an ALAC member cannot vote and publicly justify one's vote then that
> member is unworthy of being an ALAC member.
>
> Mark me down as unanimous on that.
>
> -Carlton
>
>
++++1 Carlton and Sandra

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> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Tijani BENJEMAA <tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Alan,
> >
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, I didn't attend the last ALAC call. I do appreciate that
> > this
> > issue was brought to the table.
> >
> >
> >
> > I do think that the ALS certification and decertification votes should be
> > conducted as confidential votes to avoid any tension or harassment. Even
> > staff and the ALAC chair shouldn't know how ALAC Members voted. We may
> ask
> > voters to give the rational of their vote, but anonymously.
> >
> >
> >
> > My fear is that when the ALAC members cast their votes knowing that there
> > will be someone (staff and ALAC Chair) who will see how they voted, they
> > will not vote according to their conscience, they will modulate their
> > choice
> > according the relationship they think staff members and ALAC Chair have
> > with
> > the concerned ALS.
> >
> >
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> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan
> Greenberg
> > Envoyé : jeudi 2 octobre 2014 14:37
> > À : ALAC
> > Objet : [ALAC] ALS certification and decertification votes
> >
> >
> >
> > On our last ALAC call, Olivier brought up the subject of whether ALS
> >
> > certification and decertification votes should use secret ballots
> >
> > (such as we used for personnel votes) or not, and it was decided to
> >
> > discuss the issue on the mailing list.
> >
> >
> >
> > The history is that most ALAC votes are open and it is disclosed who
> >
> > voted which way, with the exception of personnel votes and others
> >
> > that the ALAC explicitly decides should be secret. We have made such
> >
> > a decision of rare occasions. The only example I can recall is when
> >
> > we voted on whether to file objections to the .health new TLDs and we
> >
> > did so to avoid any harassment of ALAC members who voted for such
> > objections.
> >
> >
> >
> > A couple of years ago, a change was made to certification and
> >
> > decertification votes to change them from open to closed because of
> >
> > one or more objections filed by applicants. There is also a concern
> >
> > that a rejected application could lead to harassment of those who
> >
> > rejected it, and a concern that people might not vote honestly if the
> >
> > result was public (similar to the reason for secret ballots on
> >
> > personnel votes).
> >
> >
> >
> > I think that this concern should be considered.
> >
> >
> >
> > However, under our rules and the ICANN Bylaws, ALS certification and
> >
> > decertification decisions may be appealed to the Board. As such, we
> >
> > should be in a position to explain why a decision was made.
> >
> >
> >
> > Accordingly I offer the following proposal.
> >
> >
> >
> > ALS certification votes shall be conducted in such a way that there
> >
> > will be no public disclosure of how ALAC Members voted. However, the
> >
> > details of how ALAC Members voted will be available to ICANN At-Large
> >
> > staff and the ALAC Chair to allow them to conduct private interviews
> >
> > with voters to be able to put together a rationale for why any
> >
> > particular decision was made.
> >
> >
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> >
> >
> > Alan
> >
> >
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