[ALAC] Compliance complaint

Thu Mar 13 09:36:49 UTC 2014

Dear Alan,

you're correct, we have heard nothing back.

Since sending our official ALAC Statement to Maguy Serad on 27 February
2014, I have received no confirmation of receipt whatsoever. Having
CC'ed both Fadi Chehadé, ICANN CEO and Steve Crocker, ICANN Board Chair,
I asked Steve when I had lunch with him last week at the London IETF.
Immediately after receiving the note, Steve asked Compliance whether the
Board should get involved and the response from Compliance was "no
thanks, we'll work on it ourselves."

I find it very poor etiquette from Compliance to not have at least
acknowledged receipt of the ALAC Advice. Nonetheless, we should be
pursuing this question when we meet with Compliance in Singapore.

Kind regards,

Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
ALAC Chair

On 13/03/2014 01:30, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> I am assuming that the lack of a reply from Olivier means we have
> heard nothing back.
>
> Compliance has already they don't want to spend the time with us going
> over the same presentation that they will give in the public session,
> so focusing on our proposal for a new submission tool seems appropriate.
>
> Alan
>
> At 12/03/2014 07:25 PM, Holly Raiche wrote:
>> Hi Alan (and Garth)
>>
>> Well done - so far. My suggestion - that this be front and centre
>> with any ALAC discussions with Compliance
>>
>> Holly
>>
>> On 12/03/2014, at 4:09 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>>
>> > I received a message from Compliance on 10 March saying that the
>> complaint we submitted had been closed because "Based on the current
>> Whois data, the domain was suspended when the complaint was received
>> by ICANN, or the registrar demonstrated that it took reasonable steps
>> to investigate the Whois inaccuracy claim by suspending, deleting,
>> cancelling or otherwise deactivating the domain name."
>> >
>> > On checking the Whois record, the domain still exists, but it is in
>> "client Hold" status which means that it is no longer in the zone
>> file. A DNS lookup confirmed this.
>> >
>> > The domain is due to expire on 24 April.
>> >
>> > So the result of this exercise is that the particular domain that
>> we were complaining about is out of service. It remains to be seen
>> whether it will pop back again or not. The fictitious e-mail address
>> is still reported (by domaintools.com) as being in use by over 1000
>> other domain names. It is not clear how many of them might also be
>> unusable, but at least one that I checked (updflashplayer.com) is
>> still in the DNS but does not seem to be live.
>> >
>> > To do further investigation would require more time than I have at
>> the moment, and access to domain tools that I don't have. Perhaps
>> Garth would like to follow0up and if so, I ask that he contact me
>> directly to develop a plan of action.
>> >
>> > The bottom line seems to be that the compliance process worked in
>> this case, but it is clearly insufficient to address the root problem
>> that was being identified. The complaint process that we have
>> suggested to Compliance would be far better suited. Have we had ANY
>> response from them?
>> >
>> > Alan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 18/02/2014 05:03 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:
>> >>> The problem summary:
>> >>>
>> >>> Reporter Name: Alan Greenberg, on behalf of ALAC Leadership Team
>> >>> Reporter Email: alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
>> >>> Domain being reported: rapetube.org
>> >>>
>> >>> Time of submission/processing: Tue Feb 18 16:23:13 2014
>> >>>
>> >>> Problem in whois block: Technical Contact
>> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
>> >>> --- Error in email: Incorrect email
>> >>> --- Comment: Same information as above.
>> >>>
>> >>> Problem in whois block: Registrant Contact
>> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
>> >>> --- Comment: Domain given for e-mail address,
>> "Privacy-Protect.cn" is a non-existent domain and therefore
>> cannot possible be a valid address.
>> >>>
>> >>> Street address, "Rue la produit 34, Nimes,
>> Languedoc-Roussillon, France, Postal Code:30189" is a
>> non-existent address, and the postal code given (30189) is in fact an
>> "area code" or "INSEE code" and not a valid
>> postal code.
>> >>>
>> >>> The same registrant for other registrations gives the same
>> invalid e-mail address, but often a valid street address (26 Rue Jean
>> Reboul, Nimes, Languedoc-Roussillon, France 30900" which is
>> apparetnly the address of a restaurant -
>> https://maps.google.com/maps?q=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+Nimes,+France&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.834047,4.357839&spn=0.010819,0.02311&sll=43.834016,4.357919&sspn=0.00136,0.002889&oq=26+jean+reboul,+&hnear=26+Rue+Jean+Reboul,+30900+N%C3%AEmes,+Gard,+Languedoc-Roussillon,+France&t=m&z=16).
>> >>>
>> >>> Problem in whois block: Administrative Contact
>> >>> --- Error in address: Incorrect address
>> >>> --- Error in email: Incorrect email
>> >>> --- Comment: Same information as above.
>> >>>
>> >>> The whois at the time of processing is:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> REGISTRY WHOIS:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Domain Name:RAPETUBE.ORG
>> >>> Domain ID: D155914076-LROR
>> >>> Creation Date: 2009-04-21T14:44:42Z
>> >>> Updated Date: 2013-04-16T08:41:16Z
>> >>> Registry Expiry Date: 2014-04-21T14:44:42Z
>> >>> Sponsoring Registrar:Bizcn.com, Inc. (R1248-LROR)
>> >>> Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 471
>> >>> WHOIS Server:
>> >>> Referral URL:
>> >>> Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
>> >>> Registrant ID:orgre90683958698
>> >>> Registrant Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
>> >>> Registrant Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
>> >>> Registrant Street: Rue la produit 34
>> >>> Registrant City:Nimes
>> >>> Registrant State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
>> >>> Registrant Postal Code:30189
>> >>> Registrant Country:FR
>> >>> Registrant Phone:+33.466583875
>> >>> Registrant Phone Ext:
>> >>> Registrant Fax: +33.466583875
>> >>> Registrant Fax Ext:
>> >>> Registrant Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
>> >>> Admin ID:orgre90683959424
>> >>> Admin Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
>> >>> Admin Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
>> >>> Admin Street: Rue la produit 34
>> >>> Admin City:Nimes
>> >>> Admin State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
>> >>> Admin Postal Code:30189
>> >>> Admin Country:FR
>> >>> Admin Phone:+33.466583875
>> >>> Admin Phone Ext:
>> >>> Admin Fax: +33.466583875
>> >>> Admin Fax Ext:
>> >>> Admin Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
>> >>> Tech ID:orgre90683960526
>> >>> Tech Name:Henry Nguyen Gong
>> >>> Tech Organization:Privacy-Protect.cn
>> >>> Tech Street: Rue la produit 34
>> >>> Tech City:Nimes
>> >>> Tech State/Province:Languedoc-Roussillon
>> >>> Tech Postal Code:30189
>> >>> Tech Country:FR
>> >>> Tech Phone:+33.466583875
>> >>> Tech Phone Ext:
>> >>> Tech Fax: +33.466583875
>> >>> Tech Fax Ext:
>> >>> Tech Email:contact at privacy-protect.cn
>> >>> Name Server:NS3.CNMSN.COM
>> >>> Name Server:NS4.CNMSN.COM
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> Name Server:
>> >>> DNSSEC:Unsigned
>> >
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