[ALAC] Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANNAccountability?

Wed Jun 25 10:22:43 UTC 2014

My reservations is also precisely with the first paragraph.

Things we need to note as a group, if we do not agree on the tone; we either need to have a revision that we can send, OR I believe we need to have a ALAC alternative if we don’t seek alignment with the GNSO. 

That said, I feel there will be an accountability vacuum post IANA transition, and other groups will attempt to fill that vacuum with, or without us.

We need to act fast.

Raf

On 25 Jun 2014, at 10:48, León Felipe Sánchez Ambía <leonfelipe at sanchez.mx> wrote:

> I believe we should be part of this statement. Maybe suggest changes in the wording that doesn’t sound like ALAC but for sure included as supporters of the sentiment the statement tries to show.
> 
> 
> Saludos,
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> 
> 
> León
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> El 25/06/2014, a las 10:44, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> escribió:
> 
>> I agree with Holly. I have serious problems with the wording of the first
>> paragraph as it sounds like a prelude to litigation.
>> 
>> (there certainly has never been a well-defined compact with *our*
>> community)
>> 
>> But otherwise I'm generally OK with the sentiment.
>> On Jun 25, 2014 9:07 AM, <h.raiche at internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Olivier (and everyone)
>>> 
>>> I would support the principles of the statement - not necessarily the
>>> words.
>>> 
>>> I think what we can all agree on would be more accountability -
>>> within ICANN itself, but also accountability of the board. I'm not
>>> sure people want external structures. What Group 4 came up with was a
>>> staanding entity of some kind that includes all the elements of the
>>> ICANN community (and perhaps wider although - personally - not sure
>>> how that would work. So can we have general words about accountability
>>> structure of the Board that is independent of the Board - without
>>> getting more specific
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps
>>> 
>>> Holly
>>> 
>>> On Wed 25/06/14 5:02 PM , Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond ocl at gih.com sent:
>>> Please be so kind to also consider the email below, which includes
>>> the
>>> proposed text.
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Olivier
>>> 
>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>> Subject: Proposed Joint Statement on IANA Transition and ICANN
>>> Accountability?
>>> Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2014 07:20:01 +0000
>>> From: Drazek, Keith
>>> To: Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond (ocl at gih.com)
>>> 
>>> Olivier,
>>> 
>>> Are you aware of this joint community statement under development
>>> (below)? I think we have a very unique opportunity, perhaps even
>>> unprecedented, for the community to come together around a common
>>> position and sign on to a statement calling for meaningful
>>> accountability reform. From all conversations I’ve had this week,
>>> there
>>> seems to be strong consensus around the principles outlined in the
>>> draft
>>> statement, and I think this is a critical issue for all of us. Do you
>>> have a sense of whether the ALAC might be able to join the GNSO (and
>>> possibly the ccNSO) and sign on before Thursday’s public forum?
>>> Happy
>>> to discuss when we both find a few free minutes.
>>> 
>>> Also, not sure if you saw this from yesterday’s Board-GAC session,
>>> but
>>> /Fadi is attempting to reverse his NetMundial position on the
>>> interdependence of IANA Transition and ICANN Accountability:/
>>> 
>>> / /
>>> 
>>> /NETMUDIAL/
>>> 
>>> /"These two processes are very interrelated. I may have used the word
>>> in
>>> the past 'separate'. I take that word back. They are related
>>> processes.
>>> They will run in parallel but they will inform each other. They are
>>> interdependent, they're interrelated, and if we are successful, we
>>> should get these processes to work on the same timeline."/
>>> 
>>> / /
>>> 
>>> /YESTERDAY (DURING BOARD-GAC MEETING)/
>>> 
>>> /“I acknowledge the statement from the EU and assure them the
>>> accountability process will be very important. It is currently open
>>> and
>>> this is a time for you to contribute. We have to be careful how we
>>> tie
>>> this to the transition as there are elements in the community who
>>> want
>>> to delay the transition. This should not be about interdependence
>>> between the two processes but about them being interrelated./
>>> 
>>> Thanks and regards,
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> BEGIN TEXT:
>>> 
>>> The [entire GNSO] join together today calling for the Board to
>>> support
>>> community creation of an independent accountability mechanism that
>>> provides meaningful review and adequate redress for those harmed by
>>> ICANN action or inaction in contravention of an agreed upon compact
>>> with
>>> the community. This deserves the Board's serious consideration - not
>>> only does it reflect an unprecedented level of consensus across the
>>> [entire] ICANN community, it is a necessary and integral element of
>>> the
>>> IANA transition.
>>> 
>>> True accountability does not mean ICANN is only accountable to
>>> itself,
>>> or to some vague definition of “the world,” nor does it mean that
>>> governments should have the ultimate say over community policy
>>> subject
>>> to the rule of law. Rather, the Board’s decisions must be open to
>>> challenge and the Board cannot be in a position of reviewing and
>>> certifying its own decisions. We need an independent accountability
>>> structure that holds the ICANN Board, Staff, and various stakeholder
>>> groups accountable under ICANN’s governing documents, serves as an
>>> ultimate review of Board/Staff decisions, and through the creation of
>>> precedent, creates prospective guidance for the board, the staff, and
>>> the entire community.
>>> 
>>> As part of the IANA transition, the multi-stakeholder community has
>>> the
>>> opportunity and responsibility to propose meaningful accountability
>>> structures that go beyond just the IANA-specific accountability
>>> issues.
>>> We are committed to coming together and developing recommendations
>>> for
>>> creation of these mechanisms. We ask the ICANN Board and Staff to
>>> fulfill their obligations and support this community driven,
>>> multi-stakeholder initiative.
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