[ALAC] Fwd: Re: CALL FOR COMMENTS: ALAC Statement on the Translation and Transliteration of Contact Information Working Group SO-AC Input Request

[Alan Greenberg]

Ultimately, registrants pay ALL of the costs, since they are the only 
significant source of funding. The only substantive issue (that I 
see) is how much obfuscation there is in tracing and attributing any 
translation/transliteration cost and whether the registry/registrar 
can be seen to be charging differential fees based on whether T/T is 
needed. The only other potential funder is those who look at the 
data, and that is a MUCH smaller pool by several orders of magnitude 
and not likely a useful source for funding what may be a significant cost.

Note that presumably the Registration EWG is working with an 
assumption that the great new registration system in the sky will not 
be limited to 7-bit ASCII, so the question that they are looking at 
is different from the one today where we are, for the known future, 
subject to that limitation. I note that there is ANOTHER expert 
working group looking specifically at the T/T issue in parallel with the PDP.

NOTE TO STAFF: In converting the e-mail at the start of the workspace 
to PDF format, all of the hyperlinks to the background documents were lost.

Alan

At 16/02/2014 08:05 PM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim wrote:
>Thanks for the information, Carlton.
>Olivier, the ALAC needs to decide if it wishes to submit a view to the WG
>at this stage or wait to see the EWG view on the matter.
>
>An option to consider:
>For now, send a simple, but clear message to the WG that says the ALAC
>firmly believes that Registrants should not have to bear any of the cost
>burden for translation and / or transliteration of registration contact
>data.
>
>The rest of the issues may benefit from waiting and hearing the EWG view,
>the At-Large Registration WG view + the At-Large IDN WG view, which will
>take time.
>
>There will be calls for comments on the EWG work as well as the Translation
>Transliteration WG work in the future, so there will be future
>opportunities for providing input on the more complex aspects of the
>issue.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Rinalia
>On Feb 17, 2014 8:36 AM, "Carlton Samuels" <carlton.samuels at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
> > FWIW, the specific issue of whether translations should be provided for
> > registration data for directory services is under active discussion in the
> > EWG.
> >
> > -Carlton
> >
> >
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> >
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 1:20 AM, Rinalia Abdul Rahim <
> > rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Olivier,
> >>
> >> I believe the questions posed to SO/AC  from the Translation
> >> Transliteration of Contact Information WG requires At-Large scrutiny
> >> beyond
> >> the IDN Working Group.  The Registration Issues WG, among others, may have
> >> a view on some of the key issues.
> >>
> >> The question of who should pay for translation and / or transliteration,
> >> for example, may implicate registrants.  This question is linked to the
> >> purpose and benefit of contact data transformation, which is a higher
> >> level
> >> issue.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Rinalia
> >>  Dear Staff,
> >>
> >> I note the request for feedback.  I think the format in which the request
> >> is made will deter responses.  Specifically, the questions posed are
> >> buried
> >> in a PDF document and not highlighted for appropriate attention.
> >>
> >> Action Needed:
> >> 1. Please lift the questions out of the mail from Glen and highlight
> >> prominently on the wiki page.
> >> 2.  Please number the questions so that people can identify the ones that
> >> they are responding to and so that it would be easier to aggregate and
> >> analyze the response.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> Rinalia
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 9:35 AM, ICANN At-Large Staff <
> >> staff at atlarge.icann.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Edmon and Rinalia,
> >> >
> >> > Please note that the At-Large Translation and Transliteration of Contact
> >> > Information Working Group SO-AC Input Request Workspace<
> >> https://community.icann.org/x/bgDRAg>
> >> >  has been created. Please note that this workspace will be used to
> >> gather
> >> > the At-Large's comments on this Input Request
> >> >
> >> > Please submit any comments on the workspace using the comments function
> >> by *28
> >> > Feb 2014 23:59 UTC*.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Heidi Ullrich, Silvia Vivanco, Matt Ashtiani, Gisella Gruber, Nathalie
> >> > Peregrine and Julia Charvolen
> >> >
> >> > ICANN Policy Staff in support of ALAC
> >> >
> >> > E-mail: staff at atlarge.icann.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
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