[ALAC] Panel overload

[Edmon]

+1

Those are slaps in the face of both bottom-up and multistakeholder approach.

Rather than supporting strategy development from the bottom, the approach is
top-down board/ceo initiated "panels".
I can only believe that the same funds, if directed to the "bottom", can
achieve much better "input" to the process.

I am not against having outside "panelists" but I can only agree that there
is significant overload.

Perhaps we need ONE MORE multistakeholder panel that is bottom-up... I
wonder how the bottom-up process can put a stop or at least develop some
sensible framework and oversight to it.  Perhaps the GNSO/ccNSO/ASO jointly
should work to put better parameters around such board/ceo initiated
panels?... ALAC can be the facilitator I believe.

This allows the community to produce a consensus policy for ICANN itself in
a bottom up, multistakeholder way. 

Edmon




> -----Original Message-----
> From: alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-
> lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of José Francisco Arce
> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:30 AM
> To: Evan Leibovitch
> Cc: At-Large Worldwide
> Subject: Re: [ALAC] Panel overload
> 
> +1
> I have the same feeling. It seems that everything needs to be more
> organize. What realy ICANN (Fady) wants to reach with all this? It's about
> multistekeholderism or anything else.
> 
> Jose.-
> El nov 27, 2013 4:18 PM, "Evan Leibovitch" <evan at telly.org> escribió:
> 
> > I don't know if anyone else is experiencing this, but I am starting to
get
> > dizzy at the sheer number of panels, committees and working groups being
> > formed.
> >
> >    - Four original Presidents Strategy Panels. launched at Durban
> >    (originally fivem two have been merged)
> >    - The co-signers of the Montivideo Declaration
> >    - A High Level Panel led by the head of Estonia
> >    - An ICANN Cross-community working group on the Brazil meeting (asked
> >    for by Fadi at the emergency 7am meeting in Buenos Aires, delivered
by a
> >    joint ALAC/NCSG effort)
> >
> > That's seven panels, all working independently, and I'm sure I may be
> > missing some others too. And that doesn't even count the work going on
> > within the silos of the other Montivideo signatories (I certainly don't
see
> > any attempts at, for instance, bringing together ISOC and ICANN and the
> > RIRs on these matters).
> >
> > There are a lot of big names on these panels, and a lot of credibility
--
> > credibility that, IMO, is at risk if the ongoing work of these panels is
as
> > chaotic and ill-conceived as the processes that created them.
> >
> > Outside of the one that was actually initiated by our community, there
are
> > only two At-Large members -- Carlton and Edmon -- involved in any of the
> > other groups. This is unfortunate, especially given our early support
for
> > the endeavour when most of the rest of ICANN's community waffled or
> > opposed.
> >
> > But even more than the lack of end-user representation, is a feeling
that
> > this entire collection of well-meaning groupings and silos have no focus
> > beyond a vague intent to defend ICANN against the encroachment of
> > government control. All of a sudden, questions such as "where is ICANN's
> > civil society?" seem relevant and are being repeately asked.
> >
> > Given that ICANN's multi-stakeholderism is being trotted out as the best
> > defence against such encroachment, it is bewildering that that this
model
> > appears to require such a staggering amount of outside help. Where were
all
> > these people before? Maybe this chaotic need for external validation
itself
> > indicates a problem with the model.
> >
> > All I know right now is that:
> >
> >    - It's becoming harder and harder to track all the parallel panels,
and
> >    what relation they have to each other;
> >    - My confidence that this cacophony will produce a coherent defense
of
> >    the MSM, is diminishing by the day;
> >    - ICANN, after years of single focus on expanding gTLDs, has just
woken
> >    up to a challenge to its very legitimacy that until now has been
> > arrogantly
> >    assumed. Its response has been fascinating to experience, if not
wholly
> >    satisfying.
> >
> > My dizziness is unlikely to abate any time soon.
> >
> > --
> > Evan Leibovitch
> > Toronto Canada
> >
> > Em: evan at telly dot org
> > Sk: evanleibovitch
> > Tw: el56
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