[ALAC] Voting infrastructure rules

Rinalia Abdul Rahim rinalia.abdulrahim at gmail.com
Thu Jan 31 09:29:38 UTC 2013


Dear Alan,

My preference is to keep Rule 4 as it was (ie, how people voted only
unveiled at the end and not in process).

Best regards,

Rinalia

Rinalia Abdul Rahim

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 On 31 Jan 2013 17:12, "Tijani BEN JEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn> wrote:

> Hi Alan and all,
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> When a change is suggested, there must be an obvious advantage for the ALAC
> or for the At-Large members. Honestly, I don’t see such advantage except
> that it will make people more influenced. I do prefer that the voters do
> their duty of voting as independently as possible.
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan Greenberg
> Envoyé : jeudi 31 janvier 2013 05:43
> À : ALAC Working List
> Objet : [ALAC] Voting infrastructure rules
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> Currently we have in place a set of rules (approved by the ALAC in
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> June 2009) on how votes are to be conducted (that is votes that are
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> not in reference to named individuals).
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> Those rules are:
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> 1.  As the vote is proceeding, we can see how many people have voted.
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> 2.  As the vote is proceeding, we can see who has voted.
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> 3.  As the vote is proceeding, we can see a tally of how the votes
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> have been cast.
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> 4.  When the vote is ended, we can see how each person has voted.
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> 5.  The order of the options should not change as the vote proceeds.
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> 6.  Outsiders who cannot vote can look at all of the above interim results.
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> Rule 4 was there because previously, we had on some occasions used a
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> BigPulse option to order the options so that the winning one was
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> first. The rules were debated and approved because at the time, we
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> seemd to used a semi-random set of voting parameters for each vote.
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> Based on the last few votes, we seem to be back at the state of
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> semi-random variations in each vote (the current ALS approval vote
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> does not allow a voter to see who has already voted, the recent votes
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> on ALAC statements on Thickwhois and IGO/INGO questions did allow
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> viewing the list of those who had voted).
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> Since we are in the process of cleaning up the overall ALAC rules, it
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> makes sense to revisit this one prior to having staff adjust
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> procedures to ensure that our rules are being met.
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> So I ask whether these are the rules we want or if changes need to be made.
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> I would suggest one change. Since these rules were created to have a
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> similar effect as a face-to-face vote with all parties and observers
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> in the same room, I would suggest the replacement of 4 with:
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> 4. As the vote is proceeding, we can see how voted have voted.
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> This was considered last time, but was not used due to a fear that
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> seeing how people vote could influence later votes. My thoughts are
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> that this is exactly what happens in a face-to-face vote and should
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> not change because we are voting electronically.
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> Does anyone have any thoughts on this. Specifically:
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> A) Should we keep the current rules?
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> B) Should we replace 4. as suggested?
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> C) Any other changes you believe we should make?
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> We regularly demand transparency of other parts of ICANN and
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> particularly the Board. I think that we should use the same standard
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> for ourselves.
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> Alan
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