[ALAC] .post Agreement Amendment Request

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Tue Apr 10 21:43:24 UTC 2012

The current restriction is for ALL TLDs in the list, both cc and 
generic. The requested change eliminates the entire restriction. See 

I do note that the current restriction DOES allow them to use the two 
letter ccTLDs at the second level WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE RELEVANT 
GOVERNMENT. The change would eliminate the need to ask the government 
(for the ccTLDs). I presume if this was a perceived to be a problem, 
the GAC would weigh in on it.

As I said in my message, my assumption is that they are particularly 
interested in the ccTLDs, but that is a presumption on my part. ALAC 
could certainly say that it has no problem with the two-character 
ccTLDs, but not the others. Personally, I don't see a real problem though.

For the record, a brief check of registry contracts seems to indicate 
that this is a stock clause in all registry agreements, both 
sponsored and unsponsored.


At 10/04/2012 04:17 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:

>On 10 April 2012 15:51, Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>.post is asking to be allowed to use 2nd level domains which match
>all of the TLDs.
>All of the TLDs (including generics) or just the two-letter CC codes?
>That's a significant distinction to me.
>Using the two-digit codes is perfectly legit since these are 
>international standard codes anyway. And every country has its own 
>postal service.
>In this context I see <ca.post> as a very positive and user-friendly 
>alternative (and easier for an international public to guess) 
>compared to <<http://canadapost.ca>canadapost.ca> and 
><postescanada,ca> so that makes perfect sense. I'd almost wonder why 
>they hadn't tried this sooner.
>Now, if they want .com.post and .org.post I personally have a slight 
>problem with that, because it could come across as an effort to game 
>and confuse. But my objection is not enough to want to stop them, 
>because other ccTLDs such as the UK also use category-based second 
>level domains.
>- Evan
>I presume that their specific interest is to be
>allowed to use the ccTLDs, giving them roots such as:
>.au.post and so forth, although it would also include all of the
>gTLDs (presumably current and future). The current list is at
> >.post Agreement Amendment
> >
> >
> >
> >9 April 2012
> >
> >
> >Forum Announcement: Comment Period Opens on Date: 9 April 2012
> >Categories/Tags: Contracted Party Agreements
> >Purpose (Brief):
> >
> >ICANN is posting today for public comment the Universal Postal Union
> >(UPU) request to amend its Sponsorship TLD agreement to remove the
> >requirement to reserve the "previously-reserved IANA domain strings"
> >at the second level. This change in the agreement means that .post
> >would be allowed to register, for example, biz.post, com.post,
> >uk.post, etc. Comments may be submitted through 9 May 2012.
> >
> >You may access the Public Forum
> ><<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/post-amendment-2012-0 
> 9apr12-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/post-amendment-2012-09apr12-en.htm>here.
> >Public Comment Box Link:
> ><<http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/post-amendment-2012-0 
> 9apr12-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/post-amendment-2012-09apr12-en.htm>http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/post-amendment-2012-09apr12-en.htm
> >
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