[ALAC] Fwd: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report

Tijani BEN JEMAA tijani.benjemaa at fmai.org
Tue May 17 17:14:31 UTC 2011

Thank you Alan for your reply to the GNSO council. You did well.




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[mailto:alac-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] De la part de Alan Greenberg
Envoyé : mardi 17 mai 2011 15:58
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Objet : [ALAC] Fwd: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC on the Joint
Applicant Support Second Milestone Report


Please see the following reply I sent to the GNSO 

list. There was not sufficient time to get it 

reviewed prior to sending, but if I have 

incorrectly represented the ALAC, please let me 

know and I will post a correction.


The note was in reply to a proposal from Mary 

Wong with comments from Tim Ruiz and Jeff Neuman.





>Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:53:43 -0400

>To: GNSO Council <council at gnso.icann.org>

>From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>

>Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the ALAC 

>on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report


>I will try to address Jeff's questions, but will 

>in parallel pass my answers by the ALAC to 

>ensure that I am not putting words into their collective mouths.


>First, I read Mary's "the chartering process" to 

>mean "the process laid out in their charter(s)".


>On why At-Large staff forwarded the report to 

>the Board, this was done at the request of the 

>ALAC through its Chair and Executive Committee 

>and was not an independent action of staff..


>Regarding the appropriateness of one of the 

>chartering organizations sending the report to 

>the Board, the GNSO charter had the following 

>sentence which the ALAC copied verbatim: "4. All 

>communication to the ICANN Board regarding the 

>work of this Working Group shall be through the 

>respective SO/AC unless expressly approved by 

>the respective SO/AC." There is nothing there 

>that I construe to meaning that the chartering 

>organizations must work in tandem.




>At 17/05/2011 09:02 AM, Neuman, Jeff wrote:

>>I also would like to see the statement about 

>>the "scrupulous observance of the chartering 

>>process" removed. We still need to find out why 

>>the at-large icann staff sent the report to the 

>>board on May 9th as is indicated in Olivier's 

>>note. I am also not convinced that one 

>>organization sending the report to the board 

>>without the approval of the other organization 

>>is in line with the chartering process, but we can discuss that further.

>>Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.

>>Vice President, Law & Policy

>>NeuStar, Inc.

>>Jeff.Neuman at neustar.biz




>>From: tim at godaddy.com [mailto:tim at godaddy.com]

>>Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2011 08:12 AM

>>To: Stéphane Van Gelder 

>><stephane.vangelder at indom.com>; 

>>owner-council at gnso.icann.org 

>><owner-council at gnso.icann.org>; Council GNSO <council at gnso.icann.org>

>>Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the 

>>ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report


>>No objection if you remove the last sentence. 

>>There is no chartering process for CWGs. The 

>>ALAC and GNSO could not even agree on what the 

>>charter should be. And at least a few of us 

>>have concerns about how and why CWGs are being formed.Tim


>>From: Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder at indom.com>

>>Sender: owner-council at gnso.icann.org

>>Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 10:45:21 +0200

>>To: Council GNSO<council at gnso.icann.org>

>>Subject: Re: [council] Re: Statement of the 

>>ALAC on the Joint Applicant Support Second Milestone Report



>>Please find below the NCSG's suggestion on a 

>>message which I could send to the Chairman of 

>>the Board in my capacity as Chair of the GNSO.


>>Thanks Mary for providing this draft.


>>Please let me have your comments.






>>Le 14 mai 2011 Ã  16:31, 

>><<mailto:Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu>Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> 

>><<mailto:Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu>Mary.Wong at law.unh.edu> a écrit :


>>>Hi - sorry for the delay in getting back to 

>>>you on the Council letter; there has been some 

>>>lively discussion among some NCSG folks about it.


>>>We suggest the following draft:


>>>Dear Peter,


>>>We understand that ALAC has forwarded to the 

>>>Board the Joint SO/AC New gTLD Applicant 

>>>Support Working Group (JAS WG)'s Second 

>>>Milestone Report. As the other chartering 

>>>organization of the JAS WG, the GNSO Council 

>>>notes that it has not yet approved the Report. 

>>>We acknowledge the Board's desire to move 

>>>forward with new gTLDs, including issues 

>>>relating to applicant support, and hope to 

>>>provide the Board with our advice and recommendations as soon as

>>>The GNSO Council would also like to inform the 

>>>Board that it appreciates the JAS WG's 

>>>scrupulous observance of the chartering 

>>>process, in submitting its Report 

>>>simultaneously to ALAC and the GNSO for review.


>>>I would be grateful if you could convey the 

>>>GNSO Council's message to the Board.


>>>Best regards,

>>>Stephane van Gelder





>>>Mary W S Wong

>>>Professor of Law

>>>Chair, Graduate IP Programs

>>>Director, Franklin Pierce Center for IP


>>>White Street Concord, NH 03301 USA Email: 

>>><mailto:mary.wong at law.unh.edu>mary.wong at law.unh.edu 

>>>Phone: 1-603-513-5143 Webpage: 


>>>Selected writings available on the Social 

>>>Science Research Network (SSRN) at: 



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