[ALAC] [soac-newgtldapsup-wg] JAS New gTLD Applicant Support WG Charter
alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Fri Jan 14 06:05:10 UTC 2011
Sending this message to both lists was probably a mistake, because I
suspect that those without posting rights on the other list will be
held for moderation or bounced.
In any case two small reply comments.
Regarding being kind, I was trying really hard to present what
happened and not editorialize. I know a bit sneaked in.
Regarding the chain of command, I was amused by that but not really
worried, as the chartering body is the NORMAL place to submit a
report, and if there is some reason that this needs to be bypassed
for expediency or whatever, I have faith that at least the ALAC would
bless that. If a document is submitted by the WG to (say) the Board,
it is still just a WG opinion and not that of the chartering body
(which is what caused my amusement.
Regarding what the ALAC does, it is a bit problematic. I also would
like to see the group continue on the path addressing a variety of
support methodologies. But I also see a real problem raising its head
if one of the first multiple-SO/AC chartered groups cannot really be
a joint operation. It does not bode well for future efforts.
At 13/01/2011 11:56 PM, Avri Doria wrote:
>Thank you for forwarding that.
>I think you are too kind in your reference to the charter approved
>by the GNSO.
>As far I ca tell it only approves aid, when that aid is in
>partnership with an incumbent. While this was one type of aid the
>JAS group was recommending, to provide only this form of aid strike
>me as a form of neocolonialism where of those helped would only be
>helped by an incumbent partner. No fee reductions. No financial
>aid. Just partnership with an incumbent. Is this really something
>this group can just accept?
>The GNSO motion takes another unconscionable step in trying to
>prevent the JAS WG from sharing it results and recommendations with
>anyone other than the chartering organization. That is, it would
>establish a military style chain of command for all JAS WG
>recommendations that would bar the group from communicating with the
>Board , the GAC or the community at large. I do not believe this
>sort of top down restriction of WG flexibility should be accepted.
>It is my fervent hope, that the ALAC does not change its JAS charter
>based on the GNSO motion.
>As for why we haven't met yet, I can only imagine that the new
>co-chairs are catching their breath after the holidays. And I know
>that Rafik has been busy banging his head against the wall of the
>Contracted Parties House representatives in the GNSO trying to gain
>support or the charter we proposed. As a member of the GNSO council
>he is stuck between a rock and a hard place and I do not envy his position.
>I personally think we should just charge ahead on the charter as
>specified by the ALAC.
>On 13 Jan 2011, at 22:23, Alan Greenberg wrote:
> > At its meeting today, the GNSO approved a new charter for the JAS
> group. This charter differs significantly from the one that was
> originally proposed to the GNSO and later approved by the ALAC at
> its November 2010 meeting.
> > I have formatted both charters for a left-right comparison and it
> is attached.
> > The ALAC must now decide which path to follow:
> > 1. Adjust its charter to match the new GNSO one; or
> > 2. Keep the existing charter or modify it somewhat. This would
> mean that the WG is working to two different charters simultaneously.
> > I am not a fan of the new charter. I find it far too controlling
> and eliminates actions which the WG felt were important when the
> revised charter was first drafted.
> > The vote for this charter was preceded by much discussion and a
> vote on the original charter as well as an amendment which would
> have significantly augmented the final version, both of which
> failed. The charter does include a specific item on IDN, an option
> that the WG had considered but later decided not to include.
> > The final vote was very close, and nearly failed. A failure would
> have left the WG unchartered (un-re-chartered?) by the GNSO, a
> situation that would also have been difficult to handle. But for
> whatever reasons, we now have the two charters as shown in the attachment.
> > Obviously (to me in any case), the ALAC should seek the thoughts
> of the WG members regarding how it should proceed.
> > I also note that after the Cartagena meeting (where the GNSO had
> not approved the draft charter), there was a strong feeling within the WG that:
> > - it had an expanded charter from the ALAC;
> > - the original charter from the GNSO was thought be some to allow
> further work, even if not specified in detail;
> > - work should proceed without delay.
> > For reasons that I do not fully understand, that has not
> happened, and I do not believe that the group has met at all this year.
> > Alan<Charters.pdf>
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