[ALAC-ExCom] Fwd: ICANN Volunteer engagement and Travel Support issues

Carlton Samuels carlton.samuels at gmail.com
Fri Jan 4 14:58:43 UTC 2013


Good Lord!  And bet you they are sooo polite, answering EVERY question with
a 'Yes, sah'. Drives me nuts!



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Carlton A Samuels
Mobile: 876-818-1799
*Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround*
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On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Evan Leibovitch <evan at telly.org> wrote:

> Yeah, I didn't recall having a piece of that one!
>
> In vast agreement with it, though. Good stuff.
>
> (still staggering over the process of getting a SIM card in India.... Two
> trips to downtown Kolkata, background check, two local contacts, three days
> just to activate)
>
> - Evan (via mobile)
> On 2013-01-04 3:03 AM, "Alan Greenberg" <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca> wrote:
>
>> Although I seem to be doing a lot of drafting
>> with Evan, in this case it was Tijani!
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 03/01/2013 11:44 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond wrote:
>> >Dear Carlton,
>> >
>> >Thank you but I can't take the credit for this: I have to thank Alan and
>> >Evan for their work in producing the excellent draft. I only tweaked it.
>> >
>> >Kindest regards,
>> >
>> >Olivier
>> >
>> >On 03/01/2013 17:13, Carlton Samuels wrote:
>> > > Excellent!  You said all that could be said .......agreeably.
>> > >
>> > > - Carlton
>> > >
>> > > ==============================
>> > > Carlton A Samuels
>> > > Mobile: 876-818-1799
>> > > /Strategy, Planning, Governance, Assessment & Turnaround/
>> > > =============================
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Jan 3, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond
>> > > <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >     FYI
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     -------- Original Message --------
>> > >     Subject:        ICANN Volunteer engagement and Travel Support
>> issues
>> > >     Date:   Thu, 03 Jan 2013 15:30:46 +0100
>> > >     From:   Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:
>> ocl at gih.com>>
>> > >     To:     Sally Costerton <sally.costerton at icann.org
>> > >     <mailto:sally.costerton at icann.org>>
>> > >     CC:     Steve Antonoff <steve.antonoff at icann.org
>> > >     <mailto:steve.antonoff at icann.org>>, Sébastien Bachollet
>> > >     <sebastien at bachollet.com <mailto:sebastien at bachollet.com>>,
>> > >     Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com <mailto:ocl at gih.com>>,
>> > >     ICANN AtLarge Staff <staff at atlarge.icann.org
>> > >     <mailto:staff at atlarge.icann.org>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     Ref: /AL/ALAC/CO/0113/1
>> > >     To: Sally Costerton - Senior Advisor to the President - Global
>> > >     Stakeholder Engagement
>> > >     CC: Steve Antonoff - Director of Human Resources
>> > >     CC: Sébastien Bachollet
>> > >     CC: At-Large Staff
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >     Dear Sally,
>> > >
>> > >     I am writing about an ongoing issue of concern to ALAC, and in
>> > >     particular a current instance where we could benefit from your
>> > >     guidance and help.
>> > >
>> > >     The overall issue is travel support for ALAC and At-Large. This is
>> > >     an issue that has been the subject of unending discussion and
>> > >     negotiation, but regrettably, we keep on having to do battle on
>> > >     the same issues time and again. At-Large is the only ICANN
>> > >     stakeholder that, with very few exceptions, has no ability to fund
>> > >     our involvement and particularly our travel without support from
>> > >     ICANN. Almost none of our active participants are employed by the
>> > >     domain name industry and very few even by Internet-related
>> > >     organizations. We all give generously of our time, and often at a
>> > >     non-trivial loss of other income, in the interest of ICANN. But
>> > >     actual out-of-pocket expenses are generally beyond our
>> capabilities.
>> > >
>> > >     Over the years, we have worked hard to convince ICANN management
>> > >     of this, and to a large extent, we have succeeded. We have not
>> > >     recently been threatened with reduction of funding for travel to
>> > >     ICANN meetings, and have even recently been funded for travel to
>> > >     the IGF meeting in Baku. For this we are grateful.
>> > >
>> > >     However, there are still regular occurrences where we feel that
>> > >     our needs are not being met.
>> > >
>> > >     We are finding that the rules for travel to Beijing are proving
>> > >     problematic for some of our participants, and although the savings
>> > >     to ICANN from these rules are minimal, the annoyance factor is
>> > >     sufficiently high that some travellers are considering not
>> > >     participating.
>> > >
>> > >     For several years, the ALAC Executive Committee (ExCom) has met
>> > >     after the end of the "formal" ICANN week. When the ICANN Board met
>> > >     on Friday morning, the ExCom met on Friday afternoon. The meeting
>> > >     used to end at 16:00 and our members who had started their week on
>> > >     the previous Sunday morning or earlier
>> > >     were allowed to leave on Saturday morning.
>> > >
>> > >     In Toronto, with no formal ICANN meetings scheduled for Friday,
>> > >     the ExCom met on Friday morning. Some attendees were given
>> > >     Saturday departures, but most were told they must leave on Friday,
>> > >     regardless of the schedule for reasonably departing flights. I for
>> > >     one ended up paying for my own Friday hotel to allow a less-rushed
>> > >     departure.
>> > >
>> > >     In Beijing, we are all being told that a Friday departure is
>> > >     mandatory.
>> > >     There is a provision by which we might ask for an "exception"
>> > >     which may or may not be accepted. The ExCom, which is arguably
>> > >     composed of the most dedicated At-Large contributors, and
>> > >     certainly those who put in the most time and effort, finds this
>> > >     process unacceptable. To have to effectively ask to be allowed a
>> > >     reasonable departure after a LONG week of work is just not right,
>> > >     especially mindful of the vast cultural diversity of our
>> delegates.
>> > >
>> > >     Case by case exceptions have needed to be requested by ExCom
>> > >     members. In some cultures, such requests are seen as irritating
>> > >     but understood. In others, there comes a real shame with asking
>> > >     for such extension when the possibility of rejection is real.
>> > >
>> > >     ICANN staff members are often given the privilege of leaving the
>> > >     day after their work completes, or at least being allowed to keep
>> > >     their hotel rooms until their actual hotel departure, if later in
>> > >     the day (and not having to vacate them early in the morning prior
>> > >     to their first meeting). Clearly some flexibility is shown. Unpaid
>> > >     At-Large volunteers currently do not receive this same courtesy.
>> > >     Moreover, in the past when GNSO Council members were allowed to
>> > >     stay for the Friday sessions (a right often not given to ALAC),
>> > >     they always were allowed a Saturday departure.
>> > >
>> > >     Related to this is a recurrent problem of volunteers arriving in
>> > >     the evening or at night after a trip half way around the world in
>> > >     Economy Class, often getting to the hotel near or after midnight,
>> > >     and being expected to appear (presumably rested and ready to work)
>> > >     early the following morning. Again, ICANN sees the benefits of
>> > >     having its employees be well rested before starting a grueling
>> > >     ICANN week, but often volunteers are not afforded the same
>> courtesy.
>> > >
>> > >     Our At-Large volunteers are a dedicated group, working untold
>> > >     hours at home and then spending 10+ hours a day in meetings for
>> > >     5-6 days. There are no doubt some people who are looking for every
>> > >     loop-hole where they can get ICANN to fund their vacation. If
>> > >     staff feel that this applies to any At-Large people, I am freely
>> > >     available to work with them to ensure that this does not happen.
>> > >     Having to ask for special treatment does not replace being treated
>> > >     with respect as a professional. There is a strong feeling of
>> > >     resentment towards not being given just a modicum of flexibility
>> > >     regarding travel schedules and several members have therefore
>> > >     informed me that they will be unwilling to travel to the next
>> > >     ICANN meeting if this type of penny-pinching (yes, that is the
>> > >     term used) continues to occur.
>> > >
>> > >     Summarising: please be so kind to consider a return to the rules
>> > >     to show flexibility for incoming members to have the discretion to
>> > >     allow for arrival on the Friday rather than the Saturday before
>> > >     their 10 hour day on Sunday at the beginning of the ICANN meeting
>> > >     week and for At-Large to travel the day after their last day of
>> > >     work at the end of the ICANN meeting week.
>> > >
>> > >     I look forward to your follow-up on the matter.
>> > >
>> > >     Best regards,
>> > >
>> > >     Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond
>> > >     ALAC Chair
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >--
>> >Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond, PhD
>> >http://www.gih.com/ocl.html
>> >
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