[ALAC-ExCom] [offlist] TR: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Sun Jun 14 21:21:28 EDT 2009


May be one way to reduce the number of Board attendees!

At 14/06/2009 08:49 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>Well, if we give then TIME to do their homework 
>perhaps that might help... Send them the 
>issue/question to prep and the links to the 
>material we doubt they have read / remembered if they did *sigh*
>
>CLO
>
>2009/6/15 Alan Greenberg 
><<mailto:alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>
>If I follow this thread properly, the topic is 
>(essentially) feedback from the summit 
>submissions.  My recollection is that in the 
>past, when we have expected feedback from Board 
>members, it has not been kindly received (ie 
>expecting them to have done their homework for this discussion).
>
>Alan
>
>
>At 11/06/2009 07:21 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>Agreed sounds like an excellent table top 
>breakfast topic to me :-)  and I like the 
>continuity from our Mexico meal meeting as well...
>
>CLO
>
>Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>Dear all,
>Please have a look to this exchange.
>I think it is a good point for any interaction with board members.
>All the best
>
>Sébastien Bachollet
>Président d'honneur - Isoc France
><mailto:sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>www.egeni.org
><http://www.isoc.fr>www.isoc.fr
>
>
>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>[mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] 
>Envoyé : jeudi 11 juin 2009 09:48
>À : Adam Peake; 
><mailto:sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; 
>Wolf Ludwig; Patrick Vande
>Walle
>Objet : AW: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>
>I support fully Adams appraoch. The ALAC should send a formal
>resoluton/request to the Board so that there is a legal basis for
>interaction which would go beyond "small talk" and "nice words". AL has to
>buil on what it has achieved and this is good for ICANN as a whole in the
>stormy post JPA days.  Wolfgang
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>Von: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
>Gesendet: Do 11.06.2009 08:50
>An: 
><mailto:sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; 
>'Wolf Ludwig'; 'Adam Peake'; 'Patrick Vande
>Walle'
>Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
>Betreff: RE: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>
>
>
>This be a good subject for us to discuss with the
>board. Sébastien, has the excom discussed issues
>we  will want the board to hear about?  Don't we
>usually prime them so the 2 or 3 members they
>send have some preparation?
>
>I would specifically ask them how have the Summit
>documents (recommendations, ideas, etc) have been
>received by the board, do they have comments or
>questions?  Have any comments been taken onboard
>in some way?
>
>I am not sure of other specific questions, but
>one should be about how the  Summit was a
>significant investment of resources for ICANN and
>At Large. How does the board see the work of the
>Summit continuing, do they recognize it as more
>than a one-off effort?
>
>I am quite keen to hear how the see the Summit
>and enlarged, more engaged at large as
>representative of the public interest in ICANN.
>And how if it the success of the Summit we build
>on, it could help ICANN in terms of
>representation and accountability to the notion
>of the public interest.  i.e. JPA related issues.
>
>I am sure there's a few more we could add.  Does this make sense?
>
>Best,
>
>Adam
>
>
>
>
>At 9:09 PM +0200 6/10/09, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>
><https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_sydney_schedule>https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_sydney_schedule
>Sunday, 21 June 2009
>ALAC & Regional Leadership Working Session 1
>Time: 09:00 - 18:00 (Sydney Time)
>Meeting Room: tbd
>Post-Summit review and Reporting of At-Large working group activities (1015
>- 1230)
>
>Sébastien Bachollet
>Président d'honneur - Isoc France
><mailto:sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>www.egeni.org
><http://www.isoc.fr>www.isoc.fr
>
>
>
>  -----Message d'origine-----
>  De : Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net]
>  Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 20:00
>  À : Adam Peake; Sébastien Bachollet; Patrick Vande Walle
>  Cc : Wolfgang Kleinwächter
>  Objet : Re: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>
>  Dear all,
>
>  I couldn't find any mentioning of a Summit Follow-up in
>  Sydney, as discussed at our last call, in the last ALAC meeting
>  minutes?
>
>  Best,
>  Wolf
>
>
>  Wolf Ludwig wrote Wed, 20 May 2009 18:48:
>  >Dear Adam, Sébastien, Patrick and all,
>  >
>  >as promised at the call, here a short summary on the suggested
>  >Summit Follow-up (as discussed with Wolfgang last week in
>  >Geneva) for Sydney ...
>  >
>  >It would be good if ALAC would formally ask the ICANN Board
>  >(if they are not responding "pro-actively" in the time between ;-)
>  >what they think about the recommendations in the Summit
>  >Declaration handed over to them at the closure of the Summit
>  >in Mexico.
>  >
>  >Some keywords for such an approach to be prepared for Sydney:
>  >The Summit preparation was a big effort by the ALAC community
>  >and conducted successfully, it was a considerable investment in
>  >terms of money for ICANN and it was not meant as a "single event"
>  >but rather more a continuing process for the community ...
>  >The statements and recommendations on the different work
>  >subjects would therefore need further consideration and validation
>  >by the ICANN Board ...
>  >
>  >If ALAC doesn't want to push this further, we could do it on behalf
>  >of EURALO - and I am almost certain to get some support from
>  >NARALO.
>  >
>  >Thanks for bringing this up next week at the ALAC call!
>  >
>  >Best,
>  >Wolf
>  >
>  >
>  >Wolf Ludwig wrote  Do 14.05.2009 23:31:
>  >>Lieber Wolfgang,
>  >>
>  >>Auf dem Weg zur EBU haben wir noch kurz über den Summit
>  >>Follow-up gesprochen, und was denn nun aus der Declaration
>  >>(ausser geduldiges Papier und Ablage) würde. Da auch ich
>  >>diesbzgl. nicht viel Vertrauen in ALAC habe, habe ich diesen
>  >>Punkt auf die Agenda unseres nächsten EURALO calls -
>  >>ausnahmsweise erst am nächsten Mittwoch, 17:00 Uhr -
>  >>gesetzt. Werde dort eine gemeinsame Initiative mit NARALO
>  >>vorschlagen, weil ich dort ein ähnlich grosses Interesse
>
>  > >>vermute. Bin mit Dir einer Meinung, dass wir VOR Sydney eine
>
>  >>Erklärung formulieren (Summit war grosser Aufwand für ALAC,
>  >>auch ein Erfolg, hat ICANN eine Stange Geld gekostet und wird
>  >>erklärtermassen nicht als "single event", sondern als Prozess
>  >>verstanden ...) UND wir daher vom ICANN Board wissen wollen,
>  >>was er von unseren Resultaten und Empfehlungen hält?
>  >>
>  >>Da ich, wie gesagt, diesmal in Sydney nicht dabei sein kann,
>  >>müssen unsere ALAC-Vertreter das dann pushen - im Alleingang
>  >>oder mit NARALO -; doch bin ich gerne bereit, diesen Punkt mit
>  >>NARALO/Evan Leibovitch abzuklären und wahrscheinlich helfen
>  >>Adam, Du, Patrick oder Sébastien auch mit, eine solche Erklärung
>  >>zu draften, die wir dann bei unserem Juni-Call und vor dem
>  >>Aufbruch nach Sydney absegnen können. Vielleicht steigen dann
>  >>vor Ort noch andere RALOs oder gar ALAC in den rollenden Zug
>  >>ein?
>  >>
>  >>Soweit erstmal, wünsche Dir noch eine gute Zeit in Genf und
>  >>gute Rückreise.
>  >>
>  >>Herzlichen Gruss,
>  >>Wolf
>  >>
>  >>P. S. Habe einen Basis-Entwurf für einen EURALO-Flyer (wirklich
>  >>sehr basic ;-) formuliert, den wir nächsten Mittwoch diskutieren;
>  >>Kopie schon mal zur Info.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>comunica-ch
>  >>phone +41 79 204 83 87
>  >>Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>  >><http://www.comunica-ch.net>www.comunica-ch.net
>  >>
>  >>Digitale Allmend
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>  >>
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>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >comunica-ch
>  >phone +41 79 204 83 87
>  >Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
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>  >Digitale Allmend
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>  comunica-ch
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>  Digitale Allmend
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