[ALAC-ExCom] TR: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?

Cheryl Langdon-Orr langdonorr at gmail.com
Sun Jun 14 20:49:52 EDT 2009


Well, if we give then TIME to do their homework perhaps that might help...
Send them the issue/question to prep and the links to the material we doubt
they have read / remembered if they did *sigh*
CLO

2009/6/15 Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca>

> If I follow this thread properly, the topic is (essentially) feedback from
> the summit submissions.  My recollection is that in the past, when we have
> expected feedback from Board members, it has not been kindly received (ie
> expecting them to have done their homework for this discussion).
>
> Alan
>
>
> At 11/06/2009 07:21 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>
>> Agreed sounds like an excellent table top breakfast topic to me :-)  and I
>> like the continuity from our Mexico meal meeting as well...
>>
>> CLO
>>
>> Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>> Please have a look to this exchange.
>>> I think it is a good point for any interaction with board members.
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Sébastien Bachollet
>>> Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>> www.egeni.org
>>> www.isoc.fr
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>> De : "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>>> [mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] Envoyé : jeudi
>>> 11 juin 2009 09:48
>>> À : Adam Peake; sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; Wolf Ludwig; Patrick Vande
>>> Walle
>>> Objet : AW: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>>
>>> I support fully Adams appraoch. The ALAC should send a formal
>>> resoluton/request to the Board so that there is a legal basis for
>>> interaction which would go beyond "small talk" and "nice words". AL has
>>> to
>>> buil on what it has achieved and this is good for ICANN as a whole in the
>>> stormy post JPA days.  Wolfgang
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ________________________________
>>>
>>> Von: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
>>> Gesendet: Do 11.06.2009 08:50
>>> An: sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; 'Wolf Ludwig'; 'Adam Peake'; 'Patrick
>>> Vande
>>> Walle'
>>> Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
>>> Betreff: RE: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This be a good subject for us to discuss with the
>>> board. Sébastien, has the excom discussed issues
>>> we  will want the board to hear about?  Don't we
>>> usually prime them so the 2 or 3 members they
>>> send have some preparation?
>>>
>>> I would specifically ask them how have the Summit
>>> documents (recommendations, ideas, etc) have been
>>> received by the board, do they have comments or
>>> questions?  Have any comments been taken onboard
>>> in some way?
>>>
>>> I am not sure of other specific questions, but
>>> one should be about how the  Summit was a
>>> significant investment of resources for ICANN and
>>> At Large. How does the board see the work of the
>>> Summit continuing, do they recognize it as more
>>> than a one-off effort?
>>>
>>> I am quite keen to hear how the see the Summit
>>> and enlarged, more engaged at large as
>>> representative of the public interest in ICANN.
>>> And how if it the success of the Summit we build
>>> on, it could help ICANN in terms of
>>> representation and accountability to the notion
>>> of the public interest.  i.e. JPA related issues.
>>>
>>> I am sure there's a few more we could add.  Does this make sense?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 9:09 PM +0200 6/10/09, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>>>
>>>  https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_sydney_schedule
>>>> Sunday, 21 June 2009
>>>> ALAC & Regional Leadership Working Session 1
>>>> Time: 09:00 - 18:00 (Sydney Time)
>>>> Meeting Room: tbd
>>>> Post-Summit review and Reporting of At-Large working group activities
>>>> (1015
>>>> - 1230)
>>>>
>>>> Sébastien Bachollet
>>>> Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>>>> sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>>> www.egeni.org
>>>> www.isoc.fr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>  De : Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net]
>>>>>  Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 20:00
>>>>>  À : Adam Peake; Sébastien Bachollet; Patrick Vande Walle
>>>>>  Cc : Wolfgang Kleinwächter
>>>>>  Objet : Re: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Dear all,
>>>>>
>>>>>  I couldn't find any mentioning of a Summit Follow-up in
>>>>>  Sydney, as discussed at our last call, in the last ALAC meeting
>>>>>  minutes?
>>>>>
>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>  Wolf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Wolf Ludwig wrote Wed, 20 May 2009 18:48:
>>>>>  >Dear Adam, Sébastien, Patrick and all,
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >as promised at the call, here a short summary on the suggested
>>>>>  >Summit Follow-up (as discussed with Wolfgang last week in
>>>>>  >Geneva) for Sydney ...
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >It would be good if ALAC would formally ask the ICANN Board
>>>>>  >(if they are not responding "pro-actively" in the time between ;-)
>>>>>  >what they think about the recommendations in the Summit
>>>>>  >Declaration handed over to them at the closure of the Summit
>>>>>  >in Mexico.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >Some keywords for such an approach to be prepared for Sydney:
>>>>>  >The Summit preparation was a big effort by the ALAC community
>>>>>  >and conducted successfully, it was a considerable investment in
>>>>>  >terms of money for ICANN and it was not meant as a "single event"
>>>>>  >but rather more a continuing process for the community ...
>>>>>  >The statements and recommendations on the different work
>>>>>  >subjects would therefore need further consideration and validation
>>>>>  >by the ICANN Board ...
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >If ALAC doesn't want to push this further, we could do it on behalf
>>>>>  >of EURALO - and I am almost certain to get some support from
>>>>>  >NARALO.
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >Thanks for bringing this up next week at the ALAC call!
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >Best,
>>>>>  >Wolf
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >Wolf Ludwig wrote  Do 14.05.2009 23:31:
>>>>>  >>Lieber Wolfgang,
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>Auf dem Weg zur EBU haben wir noch kurz über den Summit
>>>>>  >>Follow-up gesprochen, und was denn nun aus der Declaration
>>>>>  >>(ausser geduldiges Papier und Ablage) würde. Da auch ich
>>>>>  >>diesbzgl. nicht viel Vertrauen in ALAC habe, habe ich diesen
>>>>>  >>Punkt auf die Agenda unseres nächsten EURALO calls -
>>>>>  >>ausnahmsweise erst am nächsten Mittwoch, 17:00 Uhr -
>>>>>  >>gesetzt. Werde dort eine gemeinsame Initiative mit NARALO
>>>>>  >>vorschlagen, weil ich dort ein ähnlich grosses Interesse
>>>>>
>>>>>   > >>vermute. Bin mit Dir einer Meinung, dass wir VOR Sydney eine
>>>>
>>>>   >>Erklärung formulieren (Summit war grosser Aufwand für ALAC,
>>>>>  >>auch ein Erfolg, hat ICANN eine Stange Geld gekostet und wird
>>>>>  >>erklärtermassen nicht als "single event", sondern als Prozess
>>>>>  >>verstanden ...) UND wir daher vom ICANN Board wissen wollen,
>>>>>  >>was er von unseren Resultaten und Empfehlungen hält?
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>Da ich, wie gesagt, diesmal in Sydney nicht dabei sein kann,
>>>>>  >>müssen unsere ALAC-Vertreter das dann pushen - im Alleingang
>>>>>  >>oder mit NARALO -; doch bin ich gerne bereit, diesen Punkt mit
>>>>>  >>NARALO/Evan Leibovitch abzuklären und wahrscheinlich helfen
>>>>>  >>Adam, Du, Patrick oder Sébastien auch mit, eine solche Erklärung
>>>>>  >>zu draften, die wir dann bei unserem Juni-Call und vor dem
>>>>>  >>Aufbruch nach Sydney absegnen können. Vielleicht steigen dann
>>>>>  >>vor Ort noch andere RALOs oder gar ALAC in den rollenden Zug
>>>>>  >>ein?
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>Soweit erstmal, wünsche Dir noch eine gute Zeit in Genf und
>>>>>  >>gute Rückreise.
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>Herzlichen Gruss,
>>>>>  >>Wolf
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>P. S. Habe einen Basis-Entwurf für einen EURALO-Flyer (wirklich
>>>>>  >>sehr basic ;-) formuliert, den wir nächsten Mittwoch diskutieren;
>>>>>  >>Kopie schon mal zur Info.
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>comunica-ch
>>>>>  >>phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>>  >>Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>>  >>www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>Digitale Allmend
>>>>>  >>http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>
>>>>>
>>>>>  <http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>>
>>>   >>
>>>>>  >>EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>>  >>http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>  <http://euralo.org/>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >>
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >comunica-ch
>>>>>  >phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>>  >Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>>  >www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >Digitale Allmend
>>>>>  >http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>>>>  >
>>>>>  >EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>>  >http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>  >
>>>>>
>>>>>  comunica-ch
>>>>>  phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>>  Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>>  www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>>
>>>>>  Digitale Allmend
>>>>>  http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>>>>
>>>>>  EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>>  http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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