[ALAC-ExCom] TR: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?

Alan Greenberg alan.greenberg at mcgill.ca
Sun Jun 14 18:12:02 EDT 2009


If I follow this thread properly, the topic is 
(essentially) feedback from the summit 
submissions.  My recollection is that in the 
past, when we have expected feedback from Board 
members, it has not been kindly received (ie 
expecting them to have done their homework for this discussion).

Alan

At 11/06/2009 07:21 PM, Cheryl Langdon-Orr wrote:
>Agreed sounds like an excellent table top 
>breakfast topic to me :-)  and I like the 
>continuity from our Mexico meal meeting as well...
>
>CLO
>
>Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>Please have a look to this exchange.
>>I think it is a good point for any interaction with board members.
>>All the best
>>
>>Sébastien Bachollet
>>Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>www.egeni.org
>>www.isoc.fr
>>
>>
>>-----Message d'origine-----
>>De : "Kleinwächter, Wolfgang"
>>[mailto:wolfgang.kleinwaechter at medienkomm.uni-halle.de] 
>>Envoyé : jeudi 11 juin 2009 09:48
>>À : Adam Peake; sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; Wolf Ludwig; Patrick Vande
>>Walle
>>Objet : AW: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>
>>I support fully Adams appraoch. The ALAC should send a formal
>>resoluton/request to the Board so that there is a legal basis for
>>interaction which would go beyond "small talk" and "nice words". AL has to
>>buil on what it has achieved and this is good for ICANN as a whole in the
>>stormy post JPA days.  Wolfgang
>>
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>Von: Adam Peake [mailto:ajp at glocom.ac.jp]
>>Gesendet: Do 11.06.2009 08:50
>>An: sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr; 'Wolf Ludwig'; 'Adam Peake'; 'Patrick Vande
>>Walle'
>>Cc: Kleinwächter, Wolfgang
>>Betreff: RE: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>
>>
>>
>>This be a good subject for us to discuss with the
>>board. Sébastien, has the excom discussed issues
>>we  will want the board to hear about?  Don't we
>>usually prime them so the 2 or 3 members they
>>send have some preparation?
>>
>>I would specifically ask them how have the Summit
>>documents (recommendations, ideas, etc) have been
>>received by the board, do they have comments or
>>questions?  Have any comments been taken onboard
>>in some way?
>>
>>I am not sure of other specific questions, but
>>one should be about how the  Summit was a
>>significant investment of resources for ICANN and
>>At Large. How does the board see the work of the
>>Summit continuing, do they recognize it as more
>>than a one-off effort?
>>
>>I am quite keen to hear how the see the Summit
>>and enlarged, more engaged at large as
>>representative of the public interest in ICANN.
>>And how if it the success of the Summit we build
>>on, it could help ICANN in terms of
>>representation and accountability to the notion
>>of the public interest.  i.e. JPA related issues.
>>
>>I am sure there's a few more we could add.  Does this make sense?
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>Adam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 9:09 PM +0200 6/10/09, Sébastien Bachollet wrote:
>>
>>>https://st.icann.org/alac/index.cgi?at_large_sydney_schedule
>>>Sunday, 21 June 2009
>>>ALAC & Regional Leadership Working Session 1
>>>Time: 09:00 - 18:00 (Sydney Time)
>>>Meeting Room: tbd
>>>Post-Summit review and Reporting of At-Large working group activities (1015
>>>- 1230)
>>>
>>>Sébastien Bachollet
>>>Président d'honneur - Isoc France
>>>sebastien.bachollet at isoc.fr
>>>www.egeni.org
>>>www.isoc.fr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>  -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>  De : Wolf Ludwig [mailto:wolf.ludwig at comunica-ch.net]
>>>>  Envoyé : mercredi 10 juin 2009 20:00
>>>>  À : Adam Peake; Sébastien Bachollet; Patrick Vande Walle
>>>>  Cc : Wolfgang Kleinwächter
>>>>  Objet : Re: WG: AW: Summit Follow-up -- ALAC?
>>>>
>>>>  Dear all,
>>>>
>>>>  I couldn't find any mentioning of a Summit Follow-up in
>>>>  Sydney, as discussed at our last call, in the last ALAC meeting
>>>>  minutes?
>>>>
>>>>  Best,
>>>>  Wolf
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Wolf Ludwig wrote Wed, 20 May 2009 18:48:
>>>>  >Dear Adam, Sébastien, Patrick and all,
>>>>  >
>>>>  >as promised at the call, here a short summary on the suggested
>>>>  >Summit Follow-up (as discussed with Wolfgang last week in
>>>>  >Geneva) for Sydney ...
>>>>  >
>>>>  >It would be good if ALAC would formally ask the ICANN Board
>>>>  >(if they are not responding "pro-actively" in the time between ;-)
>>>>  >what they think about the recommendations in the Summit
>>>>  >Declaration handed over to them at the closure of the Summit
>>>>  >in Mexico.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >Some keywords for such an approach to be prepared for Sydney:
>>>>  >The Summit preparation was a big effort by the ALAC community
>>>>  >and conducted successfully, it was a considerable investment in
>>>>  >terms of money for ICANN and it was not meant as a "single event"
>>>>  >but rather more a continuing process for the community ...
>>>>  >The statements and recommendations on the different work
>>>>  >subjects would therefore need further consideration and validation
>>>>  >by the ICANN Board ...
>>>>  >
>>>>  >If ALAC doesn't want to push this further, we could do it on behalf
>>>>  >of EURALO - and I am almost certain to get some support from
>>>>  >NARALO.
>>>>  >
>>>>  >Thanks for bringing this up next week at the ALAC call!
>>>>  >
>>>>  >Best,
>>>>  >Wolf
>>>>  >
>>>>  >
>>>>  >Wolf Ludwig wrote  Do 14.05.2009 23:31:
>>>>  >>Lieber Wolfgang,
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>Auf dem Weg zur EBU haben wir noch kurz über den Summit
>>>>  >>Follow-up gesprochen, und was denn nun aus der Declaration
>>>>  >>(ausser geduldiges Papier und Ablage) würde. Da auch ich
>>>>  >>diesbzgl. nicht viel Vertrauen in ALAC habe, habe ich diesen
>>>>  >>Punkt auf die Agenda unseres nächsten EURALO calls -
>>>>  >>ausnahmsweise erst am nächsten Mittwoch, 17:00 Uhr -
>>>>  >>gesetzt. Werde dort eine gemeinsame Initiative mit NARALO
>>>>  >>vorschlagen, weil ich dort ein ähnlich grosses Interesse
>>>>
>>>  > >>vermute. Bin mit Dir einer Meinung, dass wir VOR Sydney eine
>>>
>>>>  >>Erklärung formulieren (Summit war grosser Aufwand für ALAC,
>>>>  >>auch ein Erfolg, hat ICANN eine Stange Geld gekostet und wird
>>>>  >>erklärtermassen nicht als "single event", sondern als Prozess
>>>>  >>verstanden ...) UND wir daher vom ICANN Board wissen wollen,
>>>>  >>was er von unseren Resultaten und Empfehlungen hält?
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>Da ich, wie gesagt, diesmal in Sydney nicht dabei sein kann,
>>>>  >>müssen unsere ALAC-Vertreter das dann pushen - im Alleingang
>>>>  >>oder mit NARALO -; doch bin ich gerne bereit, diesen Punkt mit
>>>>  >>NARALO/Evan Leibovitch abzuklären und wahrscheinlich helfen
>>>>  >>Adam, Du, Patrick oder Sébastien auch mit, eine solche Erklärung
>>>>  >>zu draften, die wir dann bei unserem Juni-Call und vor dem
>>>>  >>Aufbruch nach Sydney absegnen können. Vielleicht steigen dann
>>>>  >>vor Ort noch andere RALOs oder gar ALAC in den rollenden Zug
>>>>  >>ein?
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>Soweit erstmal, wünsche Dir noch eine gute Zeit in Genf und
>>>>  >>gute Rückreise.
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>Herzlichen Gruss,
>>>>  >>Wolf
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>P. S. Habe einen Basis-Entwurf für einen EURALO-Flyer (wirklich
>>>>  >>sehr basic ;-) formuliert, den wir nächsten Mittwoch diskutieren;
>>>>  >>Kopie schon mal zur Info.
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>comunica-ch
>>>>  >>phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>  >>Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>  >>www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>Digitale Allmend
>>>>  >>http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>
>>>>
>><http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>  >>http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>  <http://euralo.org/>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >>
>>>>  >
>>>>  >comunica-ch
>>>>  >phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>  >Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>  >www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>  >
>>>>  >Digitale Allmend
>>>>  >http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>>>  >
>>>>  >EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>  >http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>  >
>>>>
>>>>  comunica-ch
>>>>  phone +41 79 204 83 87
>>>>  Skype: Wolf-Ludwig
>>>>  www.comunica-ch.net
>>>>
>>>>  Digitale Allmend
>>>>  http://blog.allmend.ch <http://blog.allmend.ch/>  -
>>>>
>>>>  EURALO - ICANN's Regional At-Large Organisation
>>>>  http://euralo.org <http://euralo.org/>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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