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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1 This is indeed an important issue to address.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barrack Otieno<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 15, 2020 6:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Tijani BEN JEMAA<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Afri-Discuss<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AFRI-Discuss] AFRI-Discuss Digest, Vol 159, Issue 18<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is noted with thanks, we can frame the topic in way that has the most impact. My thoughts are if we don't address the issue in the long term, out Governments will step in and we know what that means.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 14 Jan 2020, 6:03 pm Tijani BEN JEMAA, <<a href="mailto:tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn">tijani.benjemaa@topnet.tn</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:navy">Thank you Barrack for your proposal.<br>
DNS Abuse is indeed one of the hottest topics at ICANN today.<br>
As you know, the spirit of the AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting is to build an African community opinion about a hot topic at ICANN and formulate it in a statement that we send to the ICANN Board and the concerned parties to make our voice heard and to give us
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"</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:navy">Building the Capacity of end users to curb DNS Abuse is Africa" isn't a hot topic for ICANN that will permit us build a position on it and send it to the ICANN Board. I propose to
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Olivier Kouami <<a href="mailto:olivierkouami@gmail.com" target="_blank">olivierkouami@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">+1 @Barrack proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 19:13, Punana Lebo via AFRI-Discuss <<a href="mailto:afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
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1. Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Call for topics: Joint AFRALO-AfrICANN<br>
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An enlightened end user is an empowered end user. As we bring the next billion users online cases of DNS abuse will definately increase. If governments feel that industry players have not control they will definately step in and thats what we are avoiding.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#26282A">Gabdibé,<br>
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drafting a resolution (beforehand), or even debating a resolution, is<br>
going to achieve absolutely nothing.<br>
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Mark,<br>
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50% lookups is actually almost worth than zero :-)-).<br>
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And how many of those hit infrastructure actually in South Africa?<br>
Does the figure include the public ones from Google and Cloudflare?<br>
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My view is that this only works All-or-Nothing, because noncompliant<br>
commercial resolver operators have a commercial advantage over<br>
complaint ones.<br>
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Financial incentives may work as may financial or other sanctions.<br>
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One could even make it part of the Accreditation that DNSSEC must be<br>
offered by the Registrars.<br>
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But while the Registrars are usually the entities operating the DNS<br>
and as such have control over the end-user's DNS anyway, the chain<br>
of trust should go up to the end user and not just the Registrar.<br>
<br>
Talking to the banks has so far not been very effective, they are<br>
happy with HTTPS even though they forget to renew their certificate<br>
on a regular basis, never mind the expense.<br>
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I don't have the answer either.<br>
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If anyone has a technical "solution" or project going on, and is coming<br>
to Cancun, please feel free to propose a presentation at TechDay on the<br>
Monday.<br>
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greetings, el<br>
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On 10/01/2020 15:26, Mark Elkins wrote:<br>
> I also like the sound of Barrack's proposal. What exactly does "DNS<br>
> Abuse" mean though?<br>
><br>
> If it is to try and get all important Domains DNSSEC Signed and for<br>
> all DNS Resolvers to become DNSSEC aware - that would be a winner in<br>
> my book!<br>
><br>
> Incidentally - about 50% of all DNS lookups in South Africa are DNSSEC<br>
> aware. That's actually the easy bit. Just have the Internet<br>
> Connection suppliers enable DNSSEC on their resolvers.<br>
><br>
> Getting the bulk or at least the important Domains DNSSEC Signed will<br>
> be a bit more challenging but is quite possible; e.g. any domain for a<br>
> website which may involve a financial transaction or deal with<br>
> personal information.<br>
><br>
> On my Domain Registration and Hosting Platform, if I am running the<br>
> Registrants DNS (Zone file), DNSSEC is simply an option the Registrant<br>
> can switch on. I could change that and simply enable it for everyone.<br>
> However, if the Domain is then moved to a Registrar that does not<br>
> support DNSSEC - there would be issues for the new Registrar.<br>
><br>
> On 2020/01/10 14:20, Gabdibé GAB-HINGONNE wrote:<br>
>> Dear All,<br>
>> I support Barrack's proposal.<br>
>> Building the capacity of African end users on the general question<br>
>> related to the DNS is very important.<br>
>> Kind regards<br>
>> Gabdibé<br>
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