<div dir="ltr"><span id="result_box" class="" lang="en"><span class="">so far,</span> <span class="">I can say that</span> <span class="">Dave's</span> <span class="">observations are</span> <span class="">consistent</span> <span class="">and provide</span> <span class="">more clarity in</span> <span class="">reading the</span> <span class="">statement.</span></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b>SCHOMBE BAUDOUIN</b><br><div><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'bookman old style','new york',times,serif">COORDINATION NATIONALE CAFEC<br>ICANN/AFRALO Member<br></b></div><div><b style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'bookman old style','new york',times,serif">ISOC Member</b><font color="#000000" face="bookman old style, new york, times, serif"><b><br></b></font>Téléphone mobile:+243998983491/+243813684512<br>email : <a href="mailto:b.schombe@gmail.com" target="_blank">b.schombe@gmail.com</a><br>skype : b.schombe<br>blog : <a href="http://akimambo.unblog.fr" target="_blank">http://akimambo.unblog.fr</a><br> <br> <br><br></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-08 7:51 GMT+01:00 Dave Kissoondoyal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave@isoc-mu.org" target="_blank">dave@isoc-mu.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72" lang="EN-GB"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dear Aziz,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Some minor changes:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Original: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are pleased to see that the ICG has taken in consideration most of the issues raised in the AFRALO comments on the draft final proposal.</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We are pleased to note that the ICG, on their latest draft, has taken in consideration most of the issues raised through the comments made by the AFRALO. </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Original: <i>-</i></span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination between the operational communities when making critical decisions like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator; we believe such decisions, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Though we understand that some informal relationship exist among the operational communities, we believe it will be helpful if the 3 communities formerly commit to coordinating with each-other whenever the need arises. <u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave:-</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Nevertheless, we still have important concerns related to the coordination among the operational communities when making critical decisions. Our concerns justify the fact that such decisions or actions, like the separation of related IANA operations from the current IANA function operator, if not well coordinated, could have major impact on the security and stability of the Internet. Although we understand that some informal relationship exists among the operational communities, we believe it is important the 3 communities formally commit to coordinate with each-other whenever the need arises. Hence there is a need to have a formal covenant in place to spell out this coordination. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Original: <i>-</i></span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the huge work done so far. We notice that the finalization of its work may be delayed and would hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave:-</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We would like to congratulate the CCWG for the tremendous work done so far. However, we are worried that the completion of its work may be delayed. We sincerely hope that the group manages to deliver its final report on time in accordance with the transition time-lines.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Original: <i>-</i></span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">While we welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG, especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate: we already expressed our disagreement about this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report.</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US">Dave: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We welcome the ICANN Board comments on the second report of CCWG especially those related to the budget veto, the recall of individual board Directors, and the enforceability of the proposed community powers. However, we believe that their proposal of exercising the community powers through the Chairs of SOs and ACs is not appropriate. We have already expressed our disagreement and concern on this issue in our statement on the first CCWG report and hope that the Board will reconsider our specific concern.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Original: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We reiterate our proposal of merging the powers of spilling the whole Board and recalling individual board members in a single one where the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of this decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, means the whole directors except the CEO. This will solve several problems such as an equal treatment of all the Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees), the replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. It will also make it simpler to reduce the number of the proposed powers.</span></i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">We reiterate our proposal for a single community power to recall either the individual board members or the whole ICANN Board, which we admit, will be in exceptional cases. This will empower the community as a whole can recall ICANN Board directors after giving the justification of their decision. They can recall from one to 15 Directors, which means the whole Board except the CEO. This will ensure an equal treatment for all Board directors (SO/AC appointees and the NomCom appointees). It will solve the problem of replacement of the recalled directors avoiding a reduced interim board. One single Community Power will also make it simpler and reduce the number of the proposed powers.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US">Original: <i>-</i></span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Besides, spilling the whole board is not really reasonable since at any time, there are on the board directors who we just appointed, others in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those we just appointed is a non sense. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We acknowledge the fact that spilling the whole board is not really reasonable. We are aware that at any time, on the ICANN Board, there are directors who we just been appointed, others are in the middle of their term, and some about to leave. Recalling those who have just been appointed is inappropriate. However we will support it if that becomes ultimately required.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US">Original: <i>-</i></span></b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0" lang="EN-US"> </span></i><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">We would like to stress the importance of the IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent which is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world.<u></u><u></u></span></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0">Dave: -</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#0070c0"> </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms are extremely important to the African Internet community as a safe guard for the future of the Internet growth and development in our continent. As Africa is currently experiencing the highest Internet access rates in the world, we the African Community participate actively and support both IANA stewardship transition process and the ICANN accountability mechanisms. We are here to contribute in the processes for the benefit of the Internet community at large.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Best regards<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify;line-height:120%"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Dave</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;line-height:120%;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif" lang="EN-US"> <a href="mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">afri-discuss-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Aziz Hilali<br><b>Sent:</b> 08 October 2015 01:59<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">afri-discuss@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>; ALAC Internal List<br><b>Subject:</b> [AFRI-Discuss] Joint meeting of African community in Dublin "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">[English]</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><br> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">AFRALO will hold the traditional joint meeting AFRALO / AfrICANN during the next ICANN meeting in Dublin. The theme proposed by the members of AFRALO is "IANA Stewardship transition and ICANN accountability - Africa perspective"<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">You will find attached the draft statement of the joint AFRALO/AfrICANN meeting due to take place on Wednesday 21 October 2015.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Would you please provide your comments on this draft before the end of Saturday, October 10, 2015, to allow us to include them before printing the final version and then distribute it to the participants in the meeting for discussion, modification if any and adoption.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Best Regards<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Aziz Hilali<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">AFRALO Chair<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <br><b>[Français]<br> </b><u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">AFRALO organisera la traditionnelle réunion conjointe AFRALO / AfrICANN lors de la réunion de l'ICANN qui aura lieu la semaine prochaine à Buenos Aires. Le thème proposé par les membres d’AFRALO sera "Transition des fonctions IANA et Responsabilité-Redevabilité de l'ICANN, Perspectives pour l’Afrique".<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">En fichier attaché, prière trouver le projet de déclaration de la réunion conjointe AFRALO – AfrICANN qui aura lieu à Dublin le mercredi 21 Octobre 2015.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Je vous prie de donner vos remarques sur ce projet au plus tard le Samedi 10 Octobre 2015, pour que l’on puisse les inclure avant d’imprimer la version finale et ensuite la distribuer aux participants à la réunion pour discussion, modification s’il y a lieu et adoption.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="background:white"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Cordialement<br>Aziz Hilali<br>Président d’AFRALO <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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