[AFRI-Discuss] ATLASS 3 IN CANADA-IMPENDIMENTS TO A SUCCESSFUL OUTING

Tue Oct 22 23:11:22 UTC 2019

Congratulations GALILA,
Thank you!

Félicitations GALILA,
Cordialement,

Etienne

Le mar. 22 oct. 2019 à 19:34, Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon at gmail.com>
a écrit :

> Cngrats
>
> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
>
> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United
> Kingdom-CANUK*
>
> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special
> Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United
> Nations-ECOSOC*
>
> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate
> Change-UNFCCC*
>
> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
> Association-NNCA-UK*
>
> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with the
> United Nations-CONGO*
>
> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
>
> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
>
> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN*
> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
>
>
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2019 at 20:14, Abdalmonem Tharwat Galila <
> agalila at mcit.gov.eg> wrote:
>
>> I got mine today after 6 working days for 5 years multiple entries
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2019, at 6:35 PM, Dave Kissoondoyal <dave at igf-mu.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Dear All,
>> I got my visa at first attempt. I provided all the documents as per the
>> checklist provided to me from the agency in Mauritius.
>> I followed all the steps following email which I received from them
>> including submission of biometric data as well.
>> They sent me the following:
>> Information on the application process is available in French (
>> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html)
>> or English (
>> https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html) on
>> the IRCC website.
>> Information on the services offered at the VAC and how to submit your
>> application can be found on our website http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/
>> Tous les renseignements au sujet du  processus de demande sont
>> disponibles, en français (
>> https://www.canada.ca/fr/services/immigration-citoyennete.html) ou en
>> anglais (https://www.canada.ca/en/services/immigration-citizenship.html),
>> sur le site Web d’IRCC.
>>
>> Tous les renseignements au sujet des services offert au CRDV et comment
>> soumettre votre demande sont disponibles sur notre site Web http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html
>> <http://www.vfsglobal.ca/canada/French/index.html>
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Dave Kissoondoyal
>>
>>
>> On 01/10/2019 21:52, Sarah Kiden wrote:
>>
>> Thank you Etienne for sharing your experience. The visa issue for us
>> Africans is always complex, not just for Canada but for very many locations
>> even within Africa. I actually remember during the ICANN meeting in Puerto
>> Rico, when the location for ATLAS III was announced, I was worried about
>> visas for African participants.
>>
>> I also wanted to share the experience from 2 fellows (from Uganda and
>> Ghana). They have been issued their visas and when I asked them, they told
>> me that they supplied additional documents. One mentioned that the ICANN
>> invitation letter states that ICANN will cover all costs though from
>> reading the visa requirements he noted that he was required to provide
>> proof of finances. So, he attached bank statements as well. As feedback, he
>> said he would mention this to the Travel team for future reference.
>>
>> They both informed me that they attached letters from their employers and
>> one attached an additional letter from her school to show that she was a
>> student and well as payslips. I am not saying that this could be the reason
>> why they were granted their visas but I know that with some of our
>> passports, we have to provide more documentation than other applicants.
>>
>> I hope that people who are reapplying can get their visas in the shortest
>> time possible.
>>
>> Looking forward to meeting you all very soon.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 6:28 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to you Maureen,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mar. 1 oct. 2019 à 02:01, Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard at gmail.com>
>>> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Etienne
>>>>
>>>> More lobbying in the background is exactly what Leon, our Board member,
>>>> has been doing. We have all highlighted the situation more as a serious
>>>> issue - not only for At-Large, and ICANN, but for specific countries. What
>>>> you did 7 years ago is still relevant. If people want things to happen for
>>>> themselves, they have to be proactive and to make the effort, as you did.
>>>> And it worked. Constituency Travel is encouraging people to reapply and if
>>>> you have to pay additional fees, you can be reimbursed these as well as the
>>>> original fees. But I realise that it is all so frustrating and time
>>>> consuming. But we live in a world where people are treated differently for
>>>> different reasons. And with governments, it depends on the issues of the
>>>> day.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for that clarification about your application.
>>>>
>>>> Maureen
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 2:34 PM Etienne Tshishimbi <news.tkeb at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Maureen my case took place, 7 years ago today. But I remind you if you
>>>>> had time to read the Canadian immigration law and redo your file. However
>>>>> ICANN must do a lobbying work in the background.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 8:42 PM, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for your letter Etienne.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would also encourage others to re-apply and to give their
>>>>>> explanations based on the reasons given by the Canadian government - just
>>>>>> as you did.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ICANN Org is working with Constituency Travel to facilitate support
>>>>>> at high levels to make their own applications of support. They and we hope
>>>>>> that it will help more people to get through. But they must reapply and
>>>>>> respond to their reasons for the original rejection with family and
>>>>>> employer details that will ensure their return to their home countries.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 5:30 AM Etienne Tshishimbi <
>>>>>> news.tkeb at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>>>>>> Je suis confus avec vous pour le refus de visa au regard de vos
>>>>>>> parcours de voyage (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON et les autres).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Je voudrai vous encourager à refaire la procédure si vous aviez le
>>>>>>> temps.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> En 2012, j'ai eu un refus pour le CANADA et j'ai fait bien relu les
>>>>>>> raisons qu'il m'avait donné pour le refus. Et j'ai bien relu les lois
>>>>>>> canadiennes sur l'immigration et j'ai refait mon dossier et j'ai eu le visa
>>>>>>> pour le CANADA. Et je n'avais pas encore eu de visa pour un autre pays de
>>>>>>> l'Occident à cette époque là.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Voici mon petit apport.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>> I am confused with you for the visa refusal with regard to your
>>>>>>> journey (Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON and the others).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to encourage you to redo the procedure if you have time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In 2012, I had a refusal for CANADA and I did a good rereading of
>>>>>>> the reasons he gave me for the refusal. And I read the Canadian immigration
>>>>>>> laws and I redid my file and got the visa for CANADA. And I had not yet got
>>>>>>> a visa for another country of the West at that time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Here is my little contribution.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le lun. 30 sept. 2019 à 11:33, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 Hadia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have a lot of people working on this for us, for which we are
>>>>>>>> very grateful.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 29 Sep 2019, 10:51 PM Hadia El Miniawi, <
>>>>>>>> hadiaminiawi at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Peters and All,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is a shame that volunteers, participants, fellows and ICANN
>>>>>>>>> attendees need to go through all this to take a role in something they are
>>>>>>>>> passionate about and that is a true contribution to the thriving and
>>>>>>>>> existence of the Internet through the MSM. I don't know how any of us can
>>>>>>>>> help in this regard, but I think ICANN needs to address the Canadian
>>>>>>>>> officials in relation to what is happening with ICANN participants' visas.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Best of luck and wishes to all
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hadia Elminiawi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Friday, September 27, 2019, 12:22:06 PM PDT, Maureen Hilyard <
>>>>>>>>> maureen.hilyard at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gisella, Heidi and I have made frequent attempts to help
>>>>>>>>> individuals, but I did not realise the extent of these visa rejections. I
>>>>>>>>> do know that they are not only rejecting applicants from Africa.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Peters, Liz, Abdulkarim and others, could you please send me the
>>>>>>>>> names of anyone you know who has received a rejection letter and the
>>>>>>>>> reasons that they have been given for the rejection. I have already seen
>>>>>>>>> some stating:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>>>>> IRPR, *based on your family ties in Canada and in your country of
>>>>>>>>> residence.*
>>>>>>>>> • I am not satisfied that you will leave Canada at the end of your
>>>>>>>>> stay as a temporary resident, as stipulated in paragraph 179(b) of the
>>>>>>>>> IRPR, *based on the purpose of your visit.  *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It would be helpful to know these reasons. Please send the
>>>>>>>>> information to me so that we can check what more ICANN could do.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:29 AM ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <
>>>>>>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>>>> It is a shame that this is happening and I think ICANN should find
>>>>>>>>> a way to solve this problem. From Nigeria alone, I know of 7 funded
>>>>>>>>> applicants who have applied and 6 of the 7 were rejected. All of these has
>>>>>>>>> previous travel history and I do not understand why the applications are
>>>>>>>>> being rejected.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:52 PM Liz Orembo <lizorembo at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is the height of exclusion. Why are we even allowing  policy
>>>>>>>>> meetings of such global resources to take place where participants from the
>>>>>>>>> global south cant attend? What is the purpose of the event code in the
>>>>>>>>> invite letters?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I hope ICANN takes this up with the Canadian government.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:23 PM Peters Omoragbon <
>>>>>>>>> petersomoragbon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues and friends,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am constrained to bring the attention of everyone to the myriad
>>>>>>>>> of road-blocks and frustrations currently confronting African delegates to
>>>>>>>>> ATLAS 3, and I am afraid, about 80% may not make it to Montreal after all.
>>>>>>>>> No thanks to the Canadian Embassy that, has not only refused their visas
>>>>>>>>> applications but also giving very spurious and insulting excuses for such
>>>>>>>>> wanton refusalS.
>>>>>>>>> For example, delegates that have a track history of previous trips
>>>>>>>>> abroad with valid USA, UK and even Japan visas are being told, they may not
>>>>>>>>> leave Canada at the end of the conference!!!
>>>>>>>>> That is the worst excuse I have heard all my life. If I could not
>>>>>>>>> remain in the USA, or Japan, UK and Europe, what is so special about Canada
>>>>>>>>> to keep me away from returning?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It must be recalled that we collectively put up and appeal to
>>>>>>>>> ICANN to be aware of the notoriety of the Canadian Embassies in African,
>>>>>>>>> that they will take our monies and refused to grant a genuine visa
>>>>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is my view that ICANN Secretariat please intervenes because its
>>>>>>>>> just one month away to Montreal. It will be such a shame if more than half
>>>>>>>>> of the accredited delegates are absent after all the preparations and
>>>>>>>>> efforts put into the planning and selections. And it should also be the
>>>>>>>>> responsibility of the AFRALO leadership to lead on this struggle. The fact
>>>>>>>>> that, they all have free rides to travel anywhere for ICANN events should
>>>>>>>>> not becloud their responsibilities to us-members from AFRALO.
>>>>>>>>> I hope ALAC leadership should provide the oversight function here.
>>>>>>>>> Best
>>>>>>>>> Yours truly
>>>>>>>>> Thank you all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the
>>>>>>>>> United Kingdom-CANUK *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in
>>>>>>>>> Special Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the
>>>>>>>>> United Nations-ECOSOC *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on
>>>>>>>>> Climate Change-UNFCCC *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
>>>>>>>>> Association-NNCA-UK *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status
>>>>>>>>> with the United Nations-CONGO *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate
>>>>>>>>> Change *
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN
>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
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