[AFRI-Discuss] Finalizing Individual Membership Recommendation

Mon Jul 17 08:40:18 UTC 2017

Dear all,
I am relatively new to Afralo, however I have keenly followed the
discussions on individual membership and in full support of Individual
membership.
Regarding Peters concerns, I hope they can be addressed really soon and I
hope that he is open minded enough to engage in an amiable discussion. The
Boldness of his emails allude to some unfinished business.
Peters- Without making the email very *Big* and *Bold* we can still read
the content(Am sorry I get very uncomfortable with these kind of emails-
Personal opinion). lets have discussions with mutual respect for one
another .

Regards
Esther Patricia

On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:20 AM, Peters Omoragbon <petersomoragbon at gmail.com
> wrote:

> That is exactly my point.
> Why is the issue of individual membership such a big deal that we are
> leaving out more important issues that should unite us instead of pursuing
> what will divide us.
> If ALAC is recommending individual membership, did ALAC issue an
> ultimatum? Even if they did, why would they do that? Why is the chairman
> and all those in support not interested in other recommendations that were
> deliberately truncated at the GA in Joburg?
> Seun, I am surprised you could make a comment as saying why I am reacting
> this way. Why did you not address the other issues I raised in my email. (I
> am responding here because I sent you the other private reply not knowing
> your mail was to the group).
> I have raised issues as constituent part of AFRALO representing my ALS and
> I want both GS and Chairman to respond to me.
> Thank you.
> Pastor Peters
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> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
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> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
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> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN*
> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
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> On 17 July 2017 at 00:04, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Seun
>> If the membership will not offer voting rights, why and why exactly is
>> this line of thought being proposed, it may steer somewhat controversy in
>> the near  I hope we are not setting a time bomb by this proposal.
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>> Regards
>> Remmy
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>> On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:39 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Hello Pastor Peters,
>>>
>>> Just to clarify, the rights of individual membership does not extend to
>>> voting and serving in AFRALO leadership position. Only ALSes have rights
>>> for that.
>>> The URL earlier shared by the Chair contains the rights of individual. I
>>> am pasting it below for easy access:
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>>> https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/49360273
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>>> I also like to state categorically that this isn't a coup in any way.
>>> Anyone who has been following the AtLarge review developments knows that
>>> individual membership was a requirement that ALL the 5 RALOs must
>>> implement. Most importantly as well is that we as ALSes have nothing to
>>> loose by including such membership especially considering how the rights
>>> has been so minimally defined. (I actually hope that we look at adding more
>>> rights to them in future when next we review it in 2019).
>>>
>>> As to the votes, while I have no problem with voting, we work by
>>> consensus as much as possible hence considering this is not a highly
>>> contentious issue(should not be and am surprised with how Pastor Peters
>>> have taken it), I think the Chair made a good decision by doing a consensus
>>> check instead.
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>>> Regards
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
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>>> On Jul 16, 2017 11:14 PM, "Peters Omoragbon" <petersomoragbon at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> I believe it is right for us to be very conscientious in all our
>>>> dealings for posterity.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect a form of collusion here and attempts by some vested powers
>>>> to push the individual membership down the throats of AFRALO even when
>>>> their values to AFRALO has yet to be fully explained and accepted by the GA.
>>>>
>>>> At the Conference call, did the house direct Mr. Aziz to call for a
>>>> vote on this particular subject? If no, why would Mr. Aziz use his office
>>>> to want to stampede us into taking a decision in a hurry?
>>>>
>>>> I have raised a fundamental issue that borders on legitimacy by asking
>>>> the Chairman to inform the house where and when the ALAC took the decision
>>>> giving us the ultimatum? Since when has ALAC been directing RALOS to adopt
>>>> rules of procedures even when it is detrimental to the collective interest
>>>> of the entire group?
>>>>
>>>> This is the game plan: The issue of tenure which has generated some
>>>> level of interest amongst members may at the long run disadvantaged some
>>>> members that have always occupied one position or the other in AFRALO and
>>>> others who want to also copy and act in like manner. And their ALS may also
>>>> not be ready to continue to support their representation at AFRALO as they
>>>> may want to elect new officers.
>>>> As a result, these same set of individuals wants to rush the Individual
>>>> membership as a ploy to ensure their continued relevance and calling the
>>>> shots in AFRALO through this medium. This is controlling AFRALO by proxy.
>>>>
>>>> I cherish experience in anything we do but I am opposed to the
>>>> sit-tight-syndrome that has become the bane of African leaders in every
>>>> ramification. Coupled with this is the Praise singers syndrome so as to
>>>> curry favour of the Cabal within AFRALO. This cannot be allowed.
>>>>
>>>> We have to first agree to a vote before mandating the Chairman to call
>>>> for same. It is not the Chairman nor any elected official that dictate to
>>>> the House, it is the house that should ask the chairman.
>>>>
>>>> This call is premature, irrespective of the number of people that are
>>>> rushing to support the proposal-which to me is premeditated.
>>>>
>>>> The big question is: WHEN WAS IT DECIDED THAT THE CHAIRMAN SHOULD CALL
>>>> A VOTE ON INDIVIDUAL MEMBERSHIP? I want both the General Secretary and
>>>> Chairman to as a matter responsibility answer my question. They are elected
>>>> to respond to our queries. I demand answer with the same speed that you are
>>>> all casting your votes now. So Mr. Aziz and Ms Kiden do respond to my
>>>> question
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>>>> Posterity is always a good judge of all that we do now and thereafter.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
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>>>> *Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON*
>>>>
>>>> *-Financial Secretary, Central Association of Nigerians in the United
>>>> Kingdom-CANUK*
>>>>
>>>> *-Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders-An NGO in Special
>>>> Consultative Status with the Economic and Social Council of the United
>>>> Nations-ECOSOC*
>>>>
>>>> *-Designated Contact Person-United Nations Framework Convention on
>>>> Climate Change-UNFCCC*
>>>>
>>>> *-International Liaison Officer-Nigerian Nurses Charitable
>>>> Association-NNCA-UK*
>>>>
>>>> *-Board Member-Conference of NGOS in Special Consultative Status with
>>>> the United Nations-CONGO*
>>>>
>>>> *-Member Steering Committee Regional Committee for Africa-CONGO*
>>>>
>>>> *-General Secretary, Civil Society Network of NGOs on Climate Change*
>>>>
>>>> *-Fellow Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers-ICANN*
>>>> *-Fellow Open Society Institute-Budapest*
>>>>
>>>> On 16 July 2017 at 22:19, Fatimata Seye Sylla <fsylla at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I hereby support the individual membership as stipulated in the
>>>>> mentioned recommendation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Warm greetings,
>>>>> Fatimata
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 16 juillet 2017 à 20:04, Aziz Hilali <hilaliaziz at yahoo.fr> a écrit
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> <English>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Members,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As per the information shared during our monthly call, It is been
>>>>>> brought to our attention by the ALAC Chair that as per the first ALAC
>>>>>> review requirements and the current At-Large Review (on-going)
>>>>>> recommendations, the RALOs are tasked with ensuring individual membership.
>>>>>> Therefore we need to get this particular item completed with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As you may recall during the General Assembly in Johannesburg, this
>>>>>> particular recommendation of the working group gained traction but we could
>>>>>> not formerly record it due to other recommendations and time constraints.
>>>>>> In view of this, I suggest we separate this recommendation on individual
>>>>>> membership which already gained traction and pass that now to comply with
>>>>>> At-Large reviews requirements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For reference, below is the link to the latest version of the
>>>>>> "Individual Membership » recommendation distributed in Johannesburg:
>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Individual+Member
>>>>>> ship+-+AFRALO+ROP+Review
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Item 7 of the recommendation currently reads as follows:
>>>>>> The individual membership issue will be reviewed in 2019 to
>>>>>> reconsider their rights and duties of unaffiliated members in light of the
>>>>>> 2018 experience.
>>>>>> I propose to modify it in this way:
>>>>>> "The individual membership issue will be reviewed by or before 2
>>>>>> years after implementation to reconsider the rights and duties of
>>>>>> unaffiliated members in light of experience gained during initial trial"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hereby, as AFRALO Chair, call for any objection to approving the
>>>>>> conditions under which individual membership will be implemented as
>>>>>> presented in the above recommendation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kindly provide your response within 72hrs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>> Aziz HILALI
>>>>>> AFRALO Chair
>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <French>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chers membres,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> D'après les informations partagées lors de notre téléconférence
>>>>>> mensuelle, le président de l’ALAC a attiré notre attention sur le fait que
>>>>>> les RALO sont appelés à accepter les adhésions individuelles, et ce suivant
>>>>>> les exigences de la première revue de l’ALAC et les recommandations de la
>>>>>> revue actuelle d’At-Large, Par conséquent, nous devons finir ce point
>>>>>> particulier sans plus tarder.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Comme vous le savez, lors de l’assemblée Générale à Johannesburg,
>>>>>> cette recommandation du groupe de travail a été approuvée, mais nous
>>>>>> n’avions pas pu l’officialiser à cause du fait que toutes les
>>>>>> recommandations étaient dans un même document et que le temps ne nous a pas
>>>>>> permis de les finir toutes. Pour cela, je suggère que nous séparons cette
>>>>>> recommandation sur l’adhésion individuelle pour se conformer avec les
>>>>>> exigence des revues d’At-Large.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pour référence, voici le lien de la toute dernière version distribuée
>>>>>> à Johannesburg de la recommandation relative à l’adhésion individuelle:
>>>>>> https://community.icann.org/display/AFRALO/Individual+Member
>>>>>> ship+-+AFRALO+ROP+Review
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le point 7 de la recommandation dit:
>>>>>> La question des droits et devoirs des membres individuels sera
>>>>>> réexaminée en 2019 au vue de l’expérience de 2018.
>>>>>> Je propose de le modifier pour devenir:
>>>>>> «La question des droits et devoirs des membres individuels sera
>>>>>> réexaminée 2 ans après la mise en oeuvre (ou avant) au vue de l’expérience
>>>>>> de la période d’essai».
>>>>>>
>>>>>> En ma qualité de Président d’AFRALO, je demande s’il y a des
>>>>>> objections pour l’approbation des conditions sous lesquelles l’adhésion
>>>>>> individuelle sera appliquée comme présenté dans la recommandation
>>>>>> mentionnée.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Prière répondre dans les 72 heures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cordialement
>>>>>> Aziz Hilali
>>>>>> AFRALO Chair
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Fatimata Seye Sylla
>>>>> ICT4D, Education & Genre
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