[AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO

Wed Jul 5 14:51:05 UTC 2017

Dear all,

It's good that we are seeing a lot of new members to the group. However I
just like to provide some clarification on process. The work of the ROP WG
started since 2014 with members joining along the way. There are a number
of recommendations that the working group have drafted and that is what was
presented to the ALSes during the general assembly in ZA.
Those recommendations and the new one that has been proposed by Pastor
Peter will all still come back to the ALSes for their consideration and
approval. I am saying this so that people within AFRALO will understand the
following:

1. The ultimate decision is not within the ROP WG but for the entire ALSes
within AFRALO.

2. Whatever the working group come out with is a draft that will still come
back here to the larger group for consideration.

3. There are a number of recommendation that the working group is
discussing and that of "term limits" that has just been proposed is just
one of them.

4. The work of the working group is open and can be followed on the wiki
even if you are not a member of the group, you are free to provide your
comments on the wiki:
https://community.icann.org/m/mobile.action#page/48350515

Regards

On Jul 5, 2017 10:08 AM, "Roger Oteng Baah" <roger.baah at gmail.com> wrote:

I think we need the full complement of this house to debate this, so the
group should be open to all.

Regards,

Roger Baah

On Jul 5, 2017 8:34 AM, "BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE" <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>
wrote:

I think this working group must remain open to all because it is virtually
all members who are intersted.

2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden at gmail.com>:

> Dear Abiola,
>
> Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is
> a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all.
> Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together.
> I am now getting confused.
>
> That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get
> solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue
> in this same spirit.
>
> I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure
> working group, which you are all invited to join.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Sarah
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <
> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a
>> well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues
>> contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first
>> place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
>>
>> AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in
>> Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more
>> transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes
>> we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adetokunbo Abiola
>> Nigerian Internet Users Coalition
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE <baudouin.schombe at gmail.com>
>>
>> *To:* NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS <nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* Afri-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; "
>> victor.ciza at gmail.com" <victor.ciza at gmail.com>; AFRALO ROP WG <
>> afralo-rop at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; ALAC Announce <
>> alac-announce at atlarge-lists.icann.org>; Peters Omoragbon <
>> petersomoragbon2 at yahoo.co.uk>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July 2017, 6:55
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF
>> PROCEDURE IN AFRALO
>> ENGLISH AND FRENCH VERSION
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
>>
>> 1. Are these leadership positions?
>> 2. Are these people problems?
>> 3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance?
>> 4. Is this the length of representation?
>>
>> In short, what are the real concerns?
>>
>> Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been
>> disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures
>> of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
>>
>> Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
>>
>> This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first
>> appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
>>
>> However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable,
>> dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of
>> democratic values, always listening to others.
>>
>> We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective
>> countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
>>
>> We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while
>> remaining united.
>>
>> FRANCAIS
>>
>>  Bonjour à tous,
>>
>> En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le
>> véritable problème?
>>
>> 1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader?
>> 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes?
>> 3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique?
>> 4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
>>
>> Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
>>
>> Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été
>> contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des
>> textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises.
>>
>> Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers?
>>
>> Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats
>> de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
>>
>> Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes
>> ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins
>> d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs
>> démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
>>
>> Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans
>> leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
>>
>> Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que
>> quantitative tout en restant unis.
>>
>> 2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <
>> afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org>:
>>
>> Dear Silvia,
>> Hope this meets you well?
>> Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS
>> Mailing list for their information.
>> I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there
>> appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels
>> to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the
>> disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed
>> and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.
>> Thanking you for your assistance
>> Best
>>
>>
>> Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of
>> Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders
>> Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria-
>> DNAN   International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable
>> Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate
>> Change in Nigeria    Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
>> Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal
>> Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in
>> NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with
>> the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for
>> Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN-
>> CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.
>> com <nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo.com>, petersomoragbon2 at yahoo.co.uk,
>> www.nursesacrosstheborders.org
>>
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