[AFRI-Discuss] MOTION FOR AMENDMENTS TO RULES OF PROCEDURE IN AFRALO

Tue Jul 4 17:10:37 UTC 2017

Dear All
I may have problems writing in French But I am very sure even my Franchophone brothers and sisters could easily do a Google translation of my motion and understand both content and context. 
Having said that I am bemused by the pretence and a presupossed query of what the problem is. 
There is no problem. What I have just done is draw attention to a progressive need for AFRALO to move forward and stop dancing around in circles.
I took the pain to do an historical review of Afralo activities, leadership and representation which in all intent and purposes is unhealthy where a continent of more than 50 countries is governed and represented by sane set of people in the past 10years.
I am no sycophant nor a boot licker.  My religion forbid that. I am not the type who saw the king naked and yet told him he had the most beautiful dress on!
Some of us are pretenders and just because of the influence commanded by certain people with Afralo are ready to pretend and look the other way and end up complaining and grumbling behind.  That is not my style. 
The points I raised have generated positive interest in other ralos apart from AFRALO. 
In any case the motion is clear for any to read and understand.
We will debate it in the WG and other groups within ICANN.
Change is dynamic and it must be embraced by all no matter how unpalatable. 
God bless you all.
Pastor Peters Omoragbon Permanent U.N. Rep UNFCCC Designated Contact Person 
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  On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 17:36, BAUDOUIN SCHOMBE<baudouin.schombe at gmail.com> wrote:   Thank you very much for this beautiful dynamic. However, I propose that the problem should be clearly defined and contextualized so that the discussions are more coherent.

2017-07-04 17:27 GMT+01:00 Sarah Kiden <skiden at gmail.com>:

Dear Abiola,
Thank you for your comments. I think it beats the purpose to say there is a problem and not point it out so that it is sorted once and for all. Please help us identify the problem so that we can find solutions together. I am now getting confused. 
That aside, I have always known AFRALO to be a family where problems get solutions, but most importantly people help each other. We need to continue in this same spirit. 
I agree with Barrack; we need to take this to the Rules of Procedure working group, which you are all invited to join. 
Thank you,
Sarah 

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 18:53 TYokunbo Abiola via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists. icann.org> wrote:

I don't think Pastor Peters' motion is embarrassing. I think it's a well-thought out presentation. The truth is, we need to discuss the issues contained in it, perhaps we might know why it was drafted in the first place, which could prove valuable going forwards.
AFRALO is a united body, as evidenced by the solidarity shown in Johannesburg. Perhaps we could even be more united, more democratic, more transparent, more discerning in the nearest future. The motion presupposes we have some problems. Why shouldn't we thrash them out once and for all.  

Regards,Adetokunbo AbiolaNigerian Internet Users Coalition

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Hello everyone,
By reading all of you, I wonder what the real problem is?
1. Are these leadership positions?2. Are these people problems?3. Are these problems of linguistic predominance?4. Is this the length of representation?
In short, what are the real concerns?
Since the creation of AFRALO, the rules of procedure have never been disputed. The members have always been elected according to the procedures of the constitutive texts and according to the required standards.
Can we understand that there are special arrangements?
This motion by Peters was to be presented as soon as the situation first appeared, which seemed embarrassing.
However, what is important for Afralo is that we need credible, reliable, dynamic, united, enthusiastic, critical and tolerant people with a sense of democratic values, always listening to others.
We especially need realistic people who demonstrate in their respective countries and in the different platforms extra ICANN.
We must privilege both qualitative and quantitative diversity while remaining united.
FRANCAIS
 Bonjour à tous,
En vous lisant tous, je me pose la question de savoir quel est le véritable problème?
1. Est ce qu'il s'agit des postes de leader? 2. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de personnes?3. Est ce qu'il s'agit de problèmes de prédominance linguistique?4. Est ce qu'il s'agit de la durée de représentation?
Bref, quelles sont les vraies préoccupations?
Depuis la création d'AFRALO, les règles de procédure n'ont jamais été contestées. Les membres ont toujours été élus suivant les procédures des textes constitutifs et selon les normes requises. 
Peut on comprendre qu'il y a des arrangements particuliers? 
Cette motion de Peters devaient être présentée dès les premiers constats de cette situation qui semble embarrassante.
Toutefois, ce qui importe pour Afralo, il nous faut des personnes ressources crédibles, fiables, dynamiques, rassembleurs, pleins d'enthousiasme, d'esprit critique et de tolérance et imbues des valeurs démocratiques, toujours à l'écoute des autres.
Il nous faut surtout des personnes réalistes et qui en font preuve dans leur pays respectifs et dans les différentes plates formes extra ICANN.
Nous devons privilégier la diversité à la fois qualitative que quantitative tout en restant unis.
2017-06-29 14:48 GMT+01:00 NURSES ACROSS THE BORDERS via AFRI-Discuss <afri-discuss at atlarge-lists. icann.org>:

Dear Silvia,Hope this meets you well?Please help to have this document circulated to the ALAC-REGIONAL LEADERS Mailing list for their information.I hope this will equally generate interest for discussion as there appears to be a common trend amongst all the leaders at the Regional Levels to perpetuate themselves in office and representations in ICANN to the disadvantage of the whole group. We shall continue to have this discussed and debated in AFRALO to move it forward.Thanking you for your assistanceBest

Pastor Peters Osawaru OMORAGBON, Treasurer, Central Association of Nigerians in the UK-CANUK Executive President/CEO-Nurses Across the Borders Inc.(USA & NIGERIA) President, Diaspora Nurses Association of Nigeria- DNAN   International Liaison Officer, Nigerian Nurses Charitable Association-UK (NNCA-UK General Secretary, Civil Society Network on Climate Change in Nigeria    Fellow-Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers- ICANNFellow-Open Society Institute, BudapestDesignated Focal Person-United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change- UNFCCC in NigeriaBoard Member, Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGO Member, Steering Committee, Regional Committee for Africa-Conference of NGOs in Consultative Relationship with the UN- CONGOTel: +441438729726, +234-8052658024,Email: nursesacrosstheborders at yahoo. com, petersomoragbon2 at yahoo.co.uk, www.nursesacrosstheborders.org

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