[AFRI-Discuss] CALL FOR A THEME FOR THE JOINT AFRALO/AfrICANN MEETING AT ICANN 52 SINGAPORE - Proposals from the Monthly Call 07 -01-2014

Fri Jan 9 12:30:00 UTC 2015

Do we have the meeting minutes/outcomes of the joint AFRALO-AfrICANN
discussions that took place in Los Angeles, where the IANA functions
stewardship transition was discussed?

It will really help to know what was discussed and the conclusion that came
out of that meeting.

Much thanks,

Regards,

Gabriel Ramokotjo
President
Internet Society Gauteng Chapter
083 742 2005
www.isoc-gauteng.org.za

On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 8:00 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Noted with thanks Colleagues,
>
> We welcome more input into this discussion from other members.
>
> Best Regards
>
> On 1/9/15, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's correct Beran hence the reason why I think we should discuss
> > accountability implications as it relates to the transition bearing in
> mind
> > that the proposal will be with ICG at that time (according to timeline).
> So
> > I am also fine with either 1 or 4/mix of both.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > sent from Google nexus 4
> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> > On 9 Jan 2015 01:38, "Beran Gillen - Yahoo!" <berangillen at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I believe a lot has happened with IANA Stewardship since ICANN 51 in LA
> >> and I believe it will help the community to briefly discuss these issues
> >> and then further delve into a detailed discussion of Accountability.
> Hence
> >> my suggestion to absorb 4 into 1.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Beran
> >> On Jan 9, 2015, at 12:31 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Exactly Tijani and WS1 is what I am of the opinion we dwell in at that
> >> > meeting(with brief talk about overall transition and brief talk about
> >> > WS2
> >> > if time permits) hence the reason why I think just "ICANN
> >> > Accountability"
> >> > as a theme does not accurately capture the scope.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> > sent from Google nexus 4
> >> > kindly excuse brevity and typos.
> >> > On 9 Jan 2015 01:15, "Tijani BEN JEMAA" <tijani.benjemaa at planet.tn>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Français ci-dessous
> >> >>
> >> >> -----------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Barrack and all,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The ICANN accountability has 2 work streams as I explained on the
> call.
> >> >>
> >> >> To make it very simplified, we can say:
> >> >>
> >> >> ·         WS1 will focus on accountability issues related to the
> >> >> stewardship transition
> >> >>
> >> >> ·         WS2 will address all other aspects of ICANN accountability
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> As you see, the ICANN accountability will have a part related to the
> >> >> transition, and if accepted, the theme will cover both aspects of
> >> >> accountability.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It was proposed because the accountability mechanisms will shape the
> >> >> new
> >> >> face of ICANN and consequently its governance. It doesn’t have the
> same
> >> >> deadlines as the transition process, and the African voice through
> the
> >> >> meeting recommendations (11 February) may impact the output of the
> >> >> CCWG,
> >> >> while all the proposal submissions will be done by 15 January for the
> >> whole
> >> >> transition process.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In the last ICANN meeting in Los Angeles, the joint AFRALO-AfrICANN
> >> >> meeting addressed the IANA functions stewardship transition. This is
> >> >> another reason for avoiding to do the same for the upcoming Singapore
> >> >> meeting.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, this is simply a proposal. Any other theme that will have
> >> >> the
> >> >> approval of the members will be the one to use.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bonsoir Barrack et tous,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> La redevabilité (accountability) d’ICANN a 2 canaux de travail (Work
> >> >> Streams) comme j’avais expliqué lors de la téléconférence.
> >> >>
> >> >> D’une manière simplifiée, nous pouvons dire que :
> >> >>
> >> >> ·         Le Work stream 1 va se focaliser sur les côtés de la
> >> >> redevabilité relatifs à la transition de la suppervision
> >> >>
> >> >> ·         Le Work Stream 2 va traiter tous les autres aspects de la
> >> >> redevabilité
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Comme vous voyez, la redevabilité de l’ICANN va avoir une partie
> >> relative
> >> >> à la transition, et s’il est accepté, le thème  couvrira les 2
> aspects
> >> de
> >> >> la redevabilité.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Il a été proposé parce que les mécanismes de redevabilité vont
> façonner
> >> le
> >> >> nouveau visage d’ICANN et par conséquent sa gouvernance. Ce processus
> >> n’a
> >> >> pas les mêmes dates limites que celui de la transition, et la voix de
> >> >> l’Afrique peut affecter à travers les recommandations de la réunion
> (11
> >> >> Février 2015) les outputs du CCWG, alors que toutes les propositions
> de
> >> >> tout le processus de transition doivent être soumise le 15 Janvier au
> >> plus
> >> >> tard.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> A la dernière réunion d’ICANN à Los Angeles, la réunion conjointe
> >> >> AFRALO-AfrICANN avait traité de la transition de la supervision des
> >> >> fonctions de l’IANA. C’est une autre raison pour éviter de faire la
> >> >> même
> >> >> chose pour la prochaine réunion à Singapour.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Bien entendu, ceci n’est qu’une proposition. Tout autre thème qui
> >> >> reçoit
> >> >> le consentement des membres sera celui qu’il faut utiliser.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >> Tijani BEN JEMAA
> >> >>
> >> >> Directeur Exécutif
> >> >>
> >> >> Fédération Méditerranéenne des Associations d'Internet (FMAI)
> >> >>
> >> >> Tél :       + 216 41 649 605
> >> >>
> >> >> Mobile: + 216 98 330 114
> >> >>
> >> >> Fax:       + 216 70 853 376
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -----Message d'origine-----
> >> >> De : Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack at gmail.com]
> >> >> Envoyé : mercredi 7 janvier 2015 21:34
> >> >> À : afri-discuss at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >> >> Objet : Re: CALL FOR A THEME FOR THE JOINT AFRALO/AfrICANN MEETING AT
> >> >> ICANN 52 SINGAPORE - Proposals from the Monthly Call 07 -01-2014
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear Colleagues,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Many thanks for participating in the monthly call. The following were
> >> >>
> >> >> proposed as possible themes for the joint meeting slated for
> >> >>
> >> >> Singapore:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1.      It was agreed that there will be a discussion for a week on
> >> >>
> >> >> the theme for the meeting in Singapore. AFRALO’s Secretariat will
> >> >>
> >> >> consolidate comments on this.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> The following ideas were proposed as Themes for the AFRALO-AFRICANN
> >> >>
> >> >> meeting in Singapore.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. " IANA transition and ICANN accountability seen by the African
> >> >> community'
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. "ICANN Accountability"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 3.  "Issues around access in Africa, as Internet access is a problem"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 4.  "ICANN accountability post transition implication - Africa
> >> perspective"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 5.    "Understanding Accountability in ICANN process"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> In addition, the following members offered to be part of the drafting
> >> team:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Seun Ojedeji
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Janvier Ngnoulaye
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) Beran Gillen
> >> >>
> >> >> 4) Remmy Nweke
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> We welcome more members to join the team.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> We welcome suggestions on the most suitable theme , this should
> happen
> >> >>
> >> >> before Wednesday 14 January 2014 after which it will be handed over
> to
> >> >>
> >> >> the drafting team to come up with a statement that will be presented
> >> >>
> >> >> at the Singapore meeting once it has been ratified by the members.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Best Regards
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Francais ci Dessous
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chers collègues,
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Merci beaucoup pour participer à l'appel mensuelle. Ont été proposé
> >> >>
> >> >> comme thèmes possibles pour la réunion conjointe prévue pour
> >> >>
> >> >> Singapour:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. Il a été convenu qu'il y aura une discussion pendant une semaine
> >> >>
> >> >> sur le thème de la réunion à Singapour. Le Secrétariat de AFRALO
> >> >>
> >> >> consolidera commentaires à ce sujet.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Les idées suivantes ont été proposées comme thèmes de la réunion
> >> >>
> >> >> AFRALO-AfrICANN à Singapour.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1. «transition IANA et l'ICANN responsabilisation vu par la
> communauté
> >> >>
> >> >> africaine '
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2. «La responsabilisation de l'ICANN"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 3. "Les questions entourant l'accès en Afrique, que l'accès à
> Internet
> >> >>
> >> >> est un problème"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 4. «L'ICANN responsabilité après la transition implication -
> >> >>
> >> >> perspective l'Afrique"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 5. «Comprendre la responsabilisation dans processus de l'ICANN"
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> En outre, les membres suivants ont offert de faire partie de l'équipe
> >> >>
> >> >> de rédaction:
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Seun Ojedeji
> >> >>
> >> >> 2) Janvier Ngnoulaye
> >> >>
> >> >> 3) Beran Gillen
> >> >>
> >> >> 4) Remmy Nweke
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Nous nous félicitons de plusieurs membres à se joindre à l'équipe.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Nous nous félicitons des suggestions sur le thème le plus approprié,
> >> >>
> >> >> ce qui devrait se produire avant mercredi 14 Janvier 2014, après quoi
> >> >>
> >> >> il sera remis à l'équipe de rédaction à venir avec une déclaration
> qui
> >> >>
> >> >> sera présentée lors de la réunion de Singapour, une fois qu'il aura
> >> >>
> >> >> été ratifié par les membres .
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Merci
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Cordialement
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ---
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